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Old 07-24-2008, 02:31 PM
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WHEN convenient...


????? now explain exactly what you are referring to
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Old 07-24-2008, 02:31 PM
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How did you know you received the Holy Spirit before you were baptized in the Spirit with the evidence of tongues?


Did you know I was baptized in a bathtub of a Baptist chaplain who baptized me in the titles and in Jesus name? And that was one of my favorite and closest experiences I've ever had with God. I was ready for Him to take me while I was under the water, the sense of peace I had was so strong!

That might ruffle a few feathers!
I first spoke in tongues when I was 10 years old, and didn't even really know what it was all about. I'm not even sure I spoke in tongues, someone else told me I did.

I do remember being caught up in the euphoria of the moment, but when I got back home I was a bit disappointed that my 10 year old thinking hadn't changed, lol. I still was rebellious!

My "devolving" has happened slowly over the years. Many will call it "backsliding", I call it "deprogramming".

That's the real reason I resigned the church I was pastoring, turned my license in, and got back in the secular workforce.

It was totally unfair to my congregation, to my family, and to myself for me to go thru this self realization while I was trying to pastor an Apostolic church.
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Old 07-24-2008, 02:32 PM
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well you go right ahead but I don't

and you are not in my clique anyways
My "clique" days ended when I graduated from high school.
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Old 07-24-2008, 02:33 PM
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I have to say that I agree with Marks post. I also think the reasoning behind some noted cons leaving goes a bit deeper.

I do wish they had stayed around to help balance out the forum. Their presence is greatly missed

And as far as the forum swaying some posters beliefs, I've seen it...there have been some that you can almost set your watch by how quickly they change from one side to the other....it's like a swinging door. Not that the forum is to BLAME, it's just how immature they are in their own spirituality

Do I think some have an agenda? Sure, on both sides of the spectrum.

Do I think there are bitter cons and bitter libs, yes, there are BOTH on this forum.

Some people just have no idea how to convey their own beliefs without getting bitter or hiding behind veiled jabs at folks not like them....

The bottom line is, IMO, we are ALL supposed to be "christian" first and foremost, regardless of what we believe with regard to standards and other "doctrinal" issues.......And it seems more often than not, we lose sight of that whole "christ like" aspect of our relationship with God and others....especially when we are hidden behind a screen.

I think people can come to an internet forum and post in complete animonity but if they use that animonity to lash out and be downright RUDE and hateful, well that brings into question their CHRISTIAN character more so than if they are ex-UPC, UPC or otherwise.

It's not about what acronym you associate with...it's about your ability to handle yourself in a Christ Like fashion on a public, internet forum.

Irregardless, there are folks out there that are vulnerable, looking for an argument or an excuse, we all have a responsibility to handle ourselves accordingly. Whether you agree with me or not, we arent just supposed to live a Godly life in the real world.

I think some cons got fed up with the un-Christ like attitude from ALL sides and chose to go elsewhere, I wish they had stayed to balance out the views here...


Just my two cents.

And no, it's not some "conspiracy".....it just happened.
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well you go right ahead but I don't

and you are not in my clique anyways
Whoo hoo, good to see 5th grade Mark back!!!!!!!!!

Hey Miz, you're not in the club!!!!!!!! No girlz alloud!
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Old 07-24-2008, 02:34 PM
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Two different situations, my friend.

You said, "MANY"..........I asked "how many?"

I said, "This is my personal experience", and didn't offer it up on the internet.

The difference is, I'm not trying to convince anyone else - you are.

Mike I'm not going to reveal how I know
you'll not get me to squeal on the brethren there's a
code of silence that is given out of respect
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Oh me.....I'll never get caught up now!
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Old 07-24-2008, 02:35 PM
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Oh me.....I'll never get caught up now!
just read my posts. the rest is fluff.
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I have to say that I agree with Marks post. I also think the reasoning behind some noted cons leaving goes a bit deeper.

I do wish they had stayed around to help balance out the forum. Their presence is greatly missed

And as far as the forum swaying some posters beliefs, I've seen it...there have been some that you can almost set your watch by how quickly they change from one side to the other....it's like a swinging door. Not that the forum is to BLAME, it's just how immature they are in their own spirituality

Do I think some have an agenda? Sure, on both sides of the spectrum.

Do I think there are bitter cons and bitter libs, yes, there are BOTH on this forum.

Some people just have no idea how to convey their own beliefs without getting bitter or hiding behind veiled jabs at folks not like them....

The bottom line is, IMO, we are ALL supposed to be "christian" first and foremost, regardless of what we believe with regard to standards and other "doctrinal" issues.......And it seems more often than not, we lose sight of that whole "christ like" aspect of our relationship with God and others....especially when we are hidden behind a screen.

I think people can come to an internet forum and post in complete animonity but if they use that animonity to lash out and be downright RUDE and hateful, well that brings into question their CHRISTIAN character more so than if they are ex-UPC, UPC or otherwise.

It's not about what acronym you associate with...it's about your ability to handle yourself in a Christ Like fashion on a public, internet forum.

Irregardless, there are folks out there that are vulnerable, looking for an argument or an excuse, we all have a responsibility to handle ourselves accordingly. Whether you agree with me or not, we arent just supposed to live a Godly life in the real world.

I think some cons got fed up with the un-Christ like attitude from ALL sides and chose to go elsewhere, I wish they had stayed to balance out the views here...


Just my two cents.

And no, it's not some "conspiracy".....it just happened.
Excellent post, Theresa, and very true!
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Mike I'm not going to reveal how I know
you'll not get me to squeal on the brethren there's a
code of silence that is given out of respect
Then will you remember this sacred vow when you bagger others to TELL!!!!
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