Moses was unfaithful when called

[donfriesen1]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Missouri

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[donfriesen1]

Originally Posted by Esaias

No, elder LeDeay wasn't from North Carolina, as far as I know. But I did detect some Southron-isms in his speech patterns.

nc

[donfriesen1]

Originally Posted by Esaias

How many years have you taught English Grammar, and at what grade level(s)?

And how many years have you taught Introductory Koine Greek, and at what grade levels?

Just wondering.

My answer is irrelevant to the discussion. Ask a relevant question, plz. But plz contact the sources of the Gk grammar at the Blue Letter Bible web site for an answer and share with us what you find out. They appear to be quite knowledgeable about Gk grammar.

Plz show the source of your comments on the tenses you referenced in an earlier post as per my earlier request, plz and thx.

Was Moses obedient or disobedient to the Lord's commands to Abraham, about circumcision, before or after he was commissioned and empowered for the commission to deliver Israel from Egypt? I assume you'll answer DISOBEDIENT/before because you are well read, able to read. So, having said DISOBEDIENT/before, plz state your opinions as to why the Lord would would call/equip for service someone DISOBEDIENT. All the readers would like to hear your opinion, plz and thx.

[donfriesen1]

Originally Posted by Amanah

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Paul's faithfulness is a consistent thread throughout his life, demonstrating his commitment to God's call and purpose.

Yet the discussion is about the Lord calling those who were unfaithful to him before becoming faithful. I state this because it appears you've missed this before detail by referencing their later faithfulness.

Plz comment on the reason the Lord would call someone who is shown to be unfaithful before their calling. Your opinion, plz. Plz reply to the main point of the discussion.

The people you are choosing to exemplify unfaithfulness is appalling.

I disagree. They are people from the scriptures you devote your life to. Perhaps you mean, rather, that my opinions are appalling, but I know what you meant.

Here is a link to a guide for formatting your posts:
https://www.apostolicfriendsforum.co....php?do=bbcode

Thx for the link, which I had looked at in the past. A course will be needed to be taken before understanding what it means. Thx for caring.

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by donfriesen1

Yet the discussion is about the Lord calling those who were unfaithful to him before becoming faithful. I state this because it appears you've missed this before detail by referencing their later faithfulness.

Plz comment on the reason the Lord would call someone who is shown to be unfaithful before their calling. Your opinion, plz. Plz reply to the main point of the discussion.

I disagree. They are people from the scriptures you devote your life to. Perhaps you mean, rather, that my opinions are appalling, but I know what you meant.


Thx for the link, which I had looked at in the past. A course will be needed to be taken before understanding what it means. Thx for caring.

I guess my questions are:

From the conclusion you have drawn, what is it that you are suggesting that we should do?

How do you believe we are to put into action the principals you are drawing from your conclusions?

How does it matter?

[donfriesen1]

Originally Posted by Amanah

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The preachers out there who are not preaching the acts 2:38 gospel are not in a covenant relationship with God and neither is anyone they "convert" so why defend them for any reason?

Defend them??? What have i said which makes you say that I defend them? Quote the post plz. I think it is extremely disturbing and appalling that anyone such as these can gloss over a garden-full of scriptures to conclude on trinity baptism. An accounting will need to be made by them for such actions and the result won't be pretty or in their favour - is my opinion. What you should be asking of the Lord instead is 'why would you empower them when they have such blatant disobedience?' But, who is anyone to accuse the Lord of such action when his love and wisdom has chosen to do so? My main point in this thread has been to show that his choices in this matter has shown God's great trust in Man, before they show evidence of being trustworthy. Knowing this magnifies God's grace to the highest place.

Romans 16:17-18 - Now I urge you, brethren, note those who cause divisions and offenses, contrary to the doctrine which you learned, and avoid them. Galatians 1:8-9 - But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed.
2 Timothy 3:5 - having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away! 2 John 1:9-11 - Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him.

I strenuously AGREE with these scriptures and have always done so.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by donfriesen1

nc

It wasn’t meant for you to comment on.
Don, let me be the first one to let you know you are certifiable.

[donfriesen1]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Don, how long did Paul wait before he went into full time preaching? What was the process? I’ll give you a hint. You can find it in Galatians.

Good morning brother Dom.

I presume you reply to something I've written, while you don't state which post or thought you reply to. I'll reply on this blind presumption. Acts 9 shows Paul being called to preach before he got saved/born again, before he proved himself faithful and before he educated himself in the Lord's presence in Arabia. See post 111. That he went to Arabia for 2yrs changes nothing about being called to preach before he got saved or proving himself faithful. You've also not stated that Paul minstered in Damascus before he went to Arabia. See Ac9.19 So when he had received food, he was strengthened. Then Saul spent some days with the disciples at Damascus. 20 Immediately he preached the Christ in the synagogues, that He is the Son of God. 27 But Barnabas took him and brought him to the apostles. And he declared to them how he had seen the Lord on the road, and that He had spoken to him, and how he had preached boldly at Damascus in the name of Jesus. 28 So he was with them at Jerusalem, coming in and going out.

Is this which you reply to? If not, you'll know what to do.

People are able to change their theological views. I did. I once believed that God only calls faithful people to the ministry. This is logical and we are scripturally instructed to do so, but other scripture has changed my mind and I've changed my theological views. I'm awed that the Lord's grace would show trust Man that he would call unfaithful people to his work. It is not too late for you to place faith in God's Word in this regard and also change your theology to match with what the Word shows. Believe the Word. Do it today.

[donfriesen1]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

You are a mental cripple.

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Originally Posted by donfriesen1 View Post 118

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Evangelist Dominic Benincas replies :

You are a mental cripple.

nc. But asking how this contributes to discussing the Word?

[donfriesen1]

Originally Posted by Amanah

I guess my questions are:

From the conclusion you have drawn, what is it that you are suggesting that we should do?

How do you believe we are to put into action the principals you are drawing from your conclusions?

How does it matter?

Firstly, what I point out about 'how the Lord operates in his decisions' brings awe at the Lord's great trust. It brings praise. Praise is a great response.

Secondly, it brings peace to those who embrace this knowledge of the Lord's decision making, knowing that frustration results when seeing the disobedient called, anointed, used. We learn to trust the Lord's decisions and this peace will advance the kingdom when this knowledge is used in our decision making.

Thirdly, it arms us with knowledge when we meet such Jesus-name-baptism rejectors who may say 'Look how God is using me and it testifies to the fact that what I preach is right.' It can be shown them from scriptural examples that God calls/empowers unfaithful people who should be responding to covenant rules. We can tell them that ministry fruit does not itself testify to faithfulness to the covenant rules from these examples.

Fourth. Truth matters, whether a point of great weight or small. All truth matters.

Fifthly, those in position of authority to appoint/commission others will be comforted knowing the Word is with them when they have a funny feeling they should appoint someone who hasn't been faithful. The Lord, in his knowledge of the possible commissioning, may seem to indicate that a lack of obedience should be overlooked inspite of the instructions which indicate that the faithful should be appointed. Scripture shows both sides, that future obedience sometimes comes after the commissioning, allowing for right decisions/commissioning in both cases.