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12-21-2013, 08:37 PM
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Re: Is There A Difference In?
There are sins not onto death according to John the Beloved. Can an immodestly dressed person be sinning? Yes. It is hell for them? Probably not, depending on the reason.
As far as how do we define modestly dressed, I think the Supreme Court's view of pornography plays a role here.
When asked how they defined it, they came up with this:
You know it when you see it.
I remember a time at church when a married woman was walking away from me, with a jean skirt down to her feet. But she had a slit up the back end that went almost to the knee which allowed anyone, but in this instance me, see the sister's leg up the calf. Never before had I seen such a thing from her. Did I accuse her of sinning?
No.
But I also didn't need to know that my brother in the Lord's wife had nice legs, either.
A final comment:
I recommend reading "Modesty" by Steve Pixler. He creates a convincing baseline definition of modestly dressed and why modesty is so important in the world today. A few bones, perhaps, to throw away. But a lot of real good meat; definitely worth a read.
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12-21-2013, 08:56 PM
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Re: Is There A Difference In?
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Originally Posted by votivesoul
There are sins not onto death according to John the Beloved. Can an immodestly dressed person be sinning? Yes. It is hell for them? Probably not, depending on the reason.
As far as how do we define modestly dressed, I think the Supreme Court's view of pornography plays a role here.
When asked how they defined it, they came up with this:
You know it when you see it.
I remember a time at church when a married woman was walking away from me, with a jean skirt down to her feet. But she had a slit up the back end that went almost to the knee which allowed anyone, but in this instance me, see the sister's leg up the calf. Never before had I seen such a thing from her. Did I accuse her of sinning?
No.
But I also didn't need to know that my brother in the Lord's wife had nice legs, either.
A final comment:
I recommend reading "Modesty" by Steve Pixler. He creates a convincing baseline definition of modestly dressed and why modesty is so important in the world today. A few bones, perhaps, to throw away. But a lot of real good meat; definitely worth a read.
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Steve Pixler is a great preacher, song writer and all around good guy. I need to get this book.
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12-21-2013, 09:22 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Re: Is There A Difference In?
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Originally Posted by Sasha
And we have come full circle. What is 'dressing modestly', and who's definition do we follow?
And you made the statement that nakedness brought shame, which is why I mentioned a woman praying uncovered.
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We already discusses this. I didn't comment about a woman praying uncovered. Praying uncovered in that context refers to a head covering
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- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
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12-21-2013, 10:30 PM
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Re: Is There A Difference In?
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Mind you...Jesus was surrounded by women who dressed like this
Jesus also did not fault those eating food offered to idols for putting a stumbling block before Jews
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Kinda looks to me like they both are pretty much wearing the same thing
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12-21-2013, 11:38 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Re: Is There A Difference In?
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Originally Posted by PastorTLArt
Kinda looks to me like they both are pretty much wearing the same thing
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Pretty much, but of course that wasn't the point
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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12-21-2013, 11:54 PM
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General Overseer, A.F.N.
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Re: Is There A Difference In?
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Pretty much, but of course that wasn't the point
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I know, sorry, Just couldnt resist
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