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Old 07-26-2008, 11:16 PM
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Re: The REAL Reason CONS have left or rarely post

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Sorry Bill that is not true. Because if you had elders you would have to consider their council. You don't listen to anyone or anything. No one can tell you anything. You do as you very well please.

Bill has both elders and mentors, not despots.

And he considers me one of them.

I know both he and his pastor.


Bro Price has come a long way, and like all of us has a long way to go.

And is willing to admit he is learning, growing and progressing even if it opens him to ridicule by "elders" and those in Administrative positions who should know better.
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If I was hostile I'd call you an idiot or something else lol. Im simply pointing out neither you nor PP really read my post as it was intended. You both seem to think Im saying they are monotheists when I simply am pointing out what their doctrine actually states.
I read it.

You were wrong.

But I still love you.

Their doctrine is tri-theism.
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Old 07-26-2008, 11:16 PM
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Trinitarians are polytheistic.
No. Double knit pants in the 70's were polyester.
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Old 07-26-2008, 11:17 PM
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The best way I can answer that is with the following scripture...

How then shall they call on Him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in Him of whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear without a preacher? And how shall they preach unless they are sent? As it is written: "HOW BEAUTIFUL ARE THE FEET OF THOSE WHO PREACH THE GOSPEL OF PEACE, WHO BRING GLAD TIDINGS OF GOOD THINGS!" But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Isaiah says, "LORD, WHO HAS BELIEVED OUR REPORT?" So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. (Romans 10:14-17)
So now its up to the preacher to preach truth, and those that do not "hear" it, get a free pass???

btw - If faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the Word, what happens to those that do not hear?
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Old 07-26-2008, 11:18 PM
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Elder, when a man cannot defend his argument, he generally will attack the man.
Hold on Bil, it's not like you haven't left yourself open to this. I mean I gave you my rebuttle and you choose not to answer. So why say ye?


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You have done so quite well, but still have shown the flaw and weakness in your argument.
When did that happen Bill? Did you answer my question? Where?



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You will not discuss this, because you are unable to defend your basis in light of what the Lord is doing in the so-called lost churches.
Doing what? Did God have Ted Haggard smoke crack with a homosexual?
Doing what Bill, what is God doing in Trinitarian churches?



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That is what is so surprising, and respectfully, downing me will not strengthen your argument.
Try answering or refute what I posted Bill.

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Your pot shots, wise cracks, and low blows only show to prove your inability to defend this belief that all trinitarians are going to hell. But that is OK. I just will be so glad to meet you in Heaven, and see the look on your face, when all these people who you condemned down here, come up and shake your hand. I just want to see that look.
Bill if I say what I would like to say right here, I think I will be banned forever.
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I read it.

You were wrong.

But I still love you.

Their doctrine is tri-theism.
I didn't say their doctrine is not Tritheism. I said what their doctrine actually states. It's sad so many OPs are not willing to have an honest discussion especially when it pertains to what others believe
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Old 07-26-2008, 11:19 PM
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Bill has both elders and mentors, not despots.

And he considers me one of them.

I know both he and his pastor.


Bro Price has come a long way, and like all of us has a long way to go.

And is willing to admit he is learning, growing and progressing even if it opens him to ridicule by "elders" and those in Administrative positions who should know better.
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I read it.

You were wrong.

But I still love you.

Their doctrine is tri-theism.
BTW you did not really read it, because you are still presuming I am saying they are not tritheistic when what I said is if we are honest their doctrine states "there is one God" not "there is three Gods"
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  3. Every sinner must repent of their sins.
  4. That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
  5. That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
  6. The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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Old 07-26-2008, 11:20 PM
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If I was hostile I'd call you an idiot or something else lol. Im simply pointing out neither you nor PP really read my post as it was intended. You both seem to think Im saying they are monotheists when I simply am pointing out what their doctrine actually states.

Well, If you had read my reply as it was intended, you would have saw that i did not even bring you into the equation. I stated that THEY can say (believe) all they want, Not that YOU can say....
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Point proven.

Still love ya!
And it will be proven, and proven and, proven, and proven, and proven, and proven and
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