Moses was unfaithful when called

[donfriesen1]

Originally Posted by votivesoul

1 Timothy 1:12 (ESV),

Apparently, for Paul, being appointed by Christ Jesus our Lord to service, i.e. ministry occurs when the Lord accounts a man as faithful, i.e. obedient and dependable.

Hebrews 3:2 (ESV),

Moses, likewise, was obedient and dependable in ALL God's house.

Hard to see how anyone could call Moses unfaithful, or say unfaithful people are accounted as faithful, and be appointed to God's service.

While not disagreeing with any theology which calls for faithful people to be placed in leadership positions (see also 2Ti2.2 And the things that you have heard from me among many witnesses, commit these to faithful men who will be able to teach others also), Paul's calling to the ministry also proves the very point I am making about God calling unfaithful people to the ministry because he places his trust in them that they will do that which they are called to do before they prove it.

The story of Paul's salvation proves this. The following scripture is taken from Ac9 and quotes what the Lord said to Ananias in vision before he went to Paul. "“15 But the Lord said to him, Go, for he is a chosen vessel of Mine to bear My name before Gentiles, kings, and the children of Israel. 16 For I will show him how many things he must suffer for My name’s sake.” Paul was chosen, when? After or before he has proved himself faithful? Paul is called before he is born again, proving my point in what I say about Moses and preachers who reject Jesus-name-baptism yet are still used miraculously by the Lord.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by donfriesen1

n c

No, elder LeDeay wasn't from North Carolina, as far as I know. But I did detect some Southron-isms in his speech patterns.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by donfriesen1

True. It is what you said.

and you also said in post 92:

Whereas Blue Letter Bible saysAn action completed in the past is much different than an action in the present. Blue Letter Bible contradicts what you had said.

How many years have you taught English Grammar, and at what grade level(s)?

And how many years have you taught Introductory Koine Greek, and at what grade levels?

Just wondering.

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by donfriesen1

While not disagreeing with any theology which calls for faithful people to be placed in leadership positions (see also 2Ti2.2 And the things that you have heard from me among many witnesses, commit these to faithful men who will be able to teach others also), Paul's calling to the ministry also proves the very point I am making about God calling unfaithful people to the ministry because he places his trust in them that they will do that which they are called to do before they prove it.

The story of Paul's salvation proves this. The following scripture is taken from Ac9 and quotes what the Lord said to Ananias in vision before he went to Paul. "“15 But the Lord said to him, Go, for he is a chosen vessel of Mine to bear My name before Gentiles, kings, and the children of Israel. 16 For I will show him how many things he must suffer for My name’s sake.” Paul was chosen, when? After or before he has proved himself faithful? Paul is called before he is born again, proving my point in what I say about Moses and preachers who reject Jesus-name-baptism yet are still used miraculously by the Lord.

Paul's faithfulness is a consistent thread throughout his life, demonstrating his commitment to God's call and purpose.

As a Pharisee, Paul was "blameless" regarding righteousness under the law (Philippians 3:5-6), showing his initial faithfulness to the Torah.

He was zealous for God, even when persecuting Christians, he mistakenly believing he was serving God (Acts 22:3-5, Galatians 1:13-15).

After his conversion, Paul's faithfulness was towards Christ, becoming a passionate disciple and apostle (Acts 9:3-31, Galatians 1:15-17).

He endured immense suffering, persecution, and hardship for the sake of Christ (2 Corinthians 11:23-28), demonstrating his continued faithfulness.

Paul's life and ministry exemplify faithfulness in his devotion to God's purpose and call both before and after his conversion.

The people you are choosing to exemplify unfaithfulness is appalling.

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[Amanah]

The preachers out there who are not preaching the acts 2:38 gospel are not in a covenant relationship with God and neither is anyone they "convert" so why defend them for any reason?

Baptism in Jesus' Name is circumcision of heart which puts you in a covenant relationship with God, therefore:

Romans 16:17-18 - Now I urge you, brethren, note those who cause divisions and offenses, contrary to the doctrine which you learned, and avoid them.

Galatians 1:8-9 - But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed.

2 Timothy 3:5 - having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away!

2 John 1:9-11 - Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Don, how long did Paul wait before he went into full time preaching? What was the process? I’ll give you a hint. You can find it in Galatians.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Esaias

No, elder LeDeay wasn't from North Carolina, as far as I know. But I did detect some Southron-isms in his speech patterns.

Missouri

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by donfriesen1

n c

You are a mental cripple.

[donfriesen1]

Originally Posted by Amanah

Good job with the quotes!

Thx, Lord bless you too.

[donfriesen1]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

You are a mental cripple.

nc