The REAL Reason CONS have left or rarely post

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by tv1a

I didn't know fun and enjoyment was in the neo concservative lexicon.

Yes my dear Brother.

I never had fun around Charismatics, they always walk around with those wierd used car salesmen smiles, and keep saying how blessed they are when they're really not. Their preachers attack Apostolic Holiness people if one happens to wander into their midst, and they are the ones who dress funny.
What's up with bright purple suits and blue shoes?

Lord bless you and your family in Jesus name

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by tv1a

There will be as many trinnies in heaven as oneness people in hell. Oneness doesn't save squat.

Sorry Brother, but there will be not one Trinitarian in heaven.

Also Oneness does not mean One, it means plural in unity.

One God Jesus Name People will be the only group in heaven.

Hey tell that to Larry King.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

[ManOfWord]

Originally Posted by tv1a

There will be as many trinnies in heaven as oneness people in hell. Oneness doesn't save squat.

This is absolutely true!!!! There is a HUGE difference between someone out of hand rejecting Jesus and someone who has surrendered their life to Him but who does not have a perfect understanding of the godhead. Neither Peter, Paul nor Jesus EVER condemned someone for an imperfect understanding. Jesus DID, however, say that there would be many who did miracles in HIS name and preached in HIS name who would NOT make it to heaven.

Sin disqualifies any of us, but there is a HUGE difference surrendered trinitarian and a self-righteous oneness person. In that situation, the "trinny" has a gazillion times greater chance of making it to heaven than the oneness person!

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by ManOfWord

This is absolutely true!!!! There is a HUGE difference between someone out of hand rejecting Jesus and someone who has surrendered their life to Him but who does not have a perfect understanding of the godhead. Neither Peter, Paul nor Jesus EVER condemned someone for an imperfect understanding. Jesus DID, however, say that there would be many who did miracles in HIS name and preached in HIS name who would NOT make it to heaven.

Sin disqualifies any of us, but there is a HUGE difference surrendered trinitarian and a self-righteous oneness person. In that situation, the "trinny" has a gazillion times greater chance of making it to heaven than the oneness person!

I agree.

Blessings, Rhoni

[Ron]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

There ya go Ron - - the other forums DO bring AFF up.

There ya go Renda, I only post at one other forum now (not GNC) & the one that I do does not allow such posts.

Perhaps the owner or other posters could verify if they read this?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by ManOfWord

This is absolutely true!!!!

No it's not

Originally Posted by ManOfWord

There is a HUGE difference between someone out of hand rejecting Jesus and someone who has surrendered their life to Him but who does not have a perfect understanding of the godhead.

Oh, you mean like Jehovah Witnesses, Ethiopian Coptic, Roman Catholics, Eastern Greek Orthodox, and last but not least Mormons.

I guess this is the reason why America is speeding towards the void. Homosexual marriage, Rampant porn viewed by thousands of teenagers and younger via the Internet. Schools war zones and colleges promoting atheism.
Speeding towards the void because preachers are making the church user friendly and not promoting truth. Don't worry folks, everything is well, all you have to be is devout Catholic, or Ethiopian Coptic sold out for one person of the Trinity, and you will fly on the back of a snowy white dove all the way to heaven. Perfect understanding? What happened to study to show yourself approved unto God? What? Does that get in the way of them signing their tithe checks? You're the preacher, TEACH them!

Originally Posted by ManOfWord

Neither Peter, Paul nor Jesus EVER condemned someone for an imperfect understanding.

Jesus

Mat 15:16

"And Jesus said, Are ye also yet without understanding?"

Mar 7:17-23

"And when he was entered into the house from the people, his disciples asked him concerning the parable. And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also? Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him; Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats? And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man. For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness: All these evil things come from within, and defile the man."

Paul

Rom 1:31-32

"Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them."

Peter


2Pe 3:15-17

"And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. Ye therefore, beloved, seeing YE KNOW THESE THINGS before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness."

Looks like you are wrong again.

Originally Posted by ManOfWord

Jesus DID, however, say that there would be many who did miracles in HIS name and preached in HIS name who would NOT make it to heaven.

Brother, Jesus said He NEVER KNEW THEM. Just like all those Trinitarian who preached a three faced Jesus.

Originally Posted by ManOfWord

Sin disqualifies any of us, but there is a HUGE difference surrendered trinitarian and a self-righteous oneness person. In that situation, the "trinny" has a gazillion times greater chance of making it to heaven than the oneness person!

Joh 8:24

"I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM he, ye shall die in your sins."

The huge difference is that a Trinitarian will be hurling towards a burning lake of fire, and the One God Jesus Namer will be soaring towards glory.


In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

[Ron]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

No it's not



Oh, you mean like Jehovah Witnesses, Ethiopian Coptic, Roman Catholics, Eastern Greek Orthodox, and last but not least Mormons.

I guess this is the reason why America is speeding towards the void. Homosexual marriage, Rampant porn viewed by thousands of teenagers and younger via the Internet. Schools war zones and colleges promoting atheism.
Speeding towards the void because preachers are making the church user friendly and not promoting truth. Don't worry folks, everything is well, all you have to be is devout Catholic, or Ethiopian Coptic sold out for one person of the Trinity, and you will fly on the back of a snowy white dove all the way to heaven. Perfect understanding? What happened to study to show yourself approved unto God? What? Does that get in the way of them signing their tithe checks? You're the preacher, TEACH them!



Jesus

Mat 15:16

"And Jesus said, Are ye also yet without understanding?"

Mar 7:17-23

"And when he was entered into the house from the people, his disciples asked him concerning the parable. And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also? Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him; Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats? And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man. For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness: All these evil things come from within, and defile the man."

Paul

Rom 1:31-32

"Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them."

Peter


2Pe 3:15-17

"And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. Ye therefore, beloved, seeing YE KNOW THESE THINGS before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness."

Looks like you are wrong again.



Brother, Jesus said He NEVER KNEW THEM. Just like all those Trinitarian who preached a three faced Jesus.




Joh 8:24

"I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM he, ye shall die in your sins."

The huge difference is that a Trinitarian will be hurling towards a burning lake of fire, and the One God Jesus Namer will be soaring towards glory.


In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

Amen, you nailed it!

[ManOfWord]

If you think that surrendering one's life to Jesus means nothing more than saying a prayer and continuing on in sin, then I can understand what you mean, and agree with it.

But that is not what I'm saying and you have heard me enough before that you should know better. I'm talking about people who HAVE surrendered their lives to Jesus, the real deal, no kidding, no playing, truly from their hearts. God knows when they have done this. A cute little prayer without the heart doesn't get the job done.

I mentioned a PERFECT understanding, not just understanding. NONE of us have perfect understanding. A PERFECT understanding is NOT a requirement for heaven...surrendering one's life to Jesus Christ IS.

I wonder WHICH "flavor" of oneness understanding you are referring to? There are many iterations within the oneness movement. So which one of the iterations is the REAL oneness/apostolic version and the ONLY one accepted by God?

[Ron]

Originally Posted by ManOfWord

If you think that surrendering one's life to Jesus means nothing more than saying a prayer and continuing on in sin, then I can understand what you mean, and agree with it.

But that is not what I'm saying and you have heard me enough before that you should know better. I'm talking about people who HAVE surrendered their lives to Jesus, the real deal, no kidding, no playing, truly from their hearts. God knows when they have done this. A cute little prayer without the heart doesn't get the job done.

I mentioned a PERFECT understanding, not just understanding. NONE of us have perfect understanding. A PERFECT understanding is NOT a requirement for heaven...surrendering one's life to Jesus Christ IS.

I wonder WHICH "flavor" of oneness understanding you are referring to? There are many iterations within the oneness movement. So which one of the iterations is the REAL oneness/apostolic version and the ONLY one accepted by God?

Mow, I surrendered my heart to God, but I did not stop there, I got water baptised in Jesus name, & got filled with the precious gift of the Holy Ghost.

I then asked Pastor which person of the trinity I should pray to?
I got my first lesson in the Shema the most important thing to a Hebrew & should be to every Apostolic.

A trinitarian going to Heaven and asking for God the father & the Dove (Holy Ghost) is not going to know Jesus.

If you know Jesus, he will reveal himself to you.

[Brother Price]

Evangelist Benincasa, may I ask what then you attribute the verifiable miracles and moves of the Spirit within trinity churches, since they are not of Christ in your opinion? How do these miracles occur, since these people are none of His? I am not speaking of Bentley or Hinn, but other verified miracles which have taken place in trinitarian Pentecostal churches?