Well, there probably is a bit of truth on both sides of the fence, but again we are discussing "why Conservatives have left" therefore I gave my opinion on it.
Duly noted, as did I, lol.
I'm sure there is truth to what Mark posted, but again, I think there are so many other reasons.
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I haven't known MP from any other forum than AFF or at least I don't remember him on NFCF. So I couldn't tell if he has evolved or not. Maybe he just hasn't been that vocal on certain subjects until now.
FCF was before my time and I was only on NFCF for about 4 month (the greater part I spent in the debate area). When I finally strayed into the General Discussion area I got slammed by MB on the quilting thread, of all places! LOL
It was the time between NFCF and AFF on the GNC when I learned about the PCI doctrine and what a one stepper was! So I'm not a complete newbie but I definitely haven't been around the block as many times as some of the others on here have!
and you make a great deal of sense too!
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lets start with the fact that I do not believe cutting ones hair sends them to hell. I dont even buy the "obey your pastor" deal that gets taught.
I never have. I have never been part of a church that taught that.
I hope that is a good starting point.
let me restate this more clearly.
Conservitives who believe that this and other standards issues (like television) are heaven and hell issues BELIEVE THAT.
So it isnt a fair comparison for you to take their core belief and treat it like they are bashing others for stating their core belief.
those that dont believe these things, typically hold to a classic "orthodox chiristian" belief that Grace is all that is needed and beyond the "Sins" listed in the bible, arent likely to start telling folk they are going to hell.... in general.
Surely we can agree on these points. Therefore, you are not making a fair comparison. hows that?
Ah, MUCH better! Thanks for clarifying, I was puzzled there for a bit........
And, yes, this post makes a lot of sense.
Thanks again for making it understood, I apologize for misreading it and impugning your sterling character!!!!!!!!!!
__________________ "Many people view their relationship with God like a "color by number" picture. It's easier to let someone else define the boundaries, tell them which blanks to fill in, and what color to use than it is for them to take a blank canvas and seek inspiration from the Source in order to paint their own masterpiece"
For all this talk about agendas, it's become fairly obvious to me that StMark has an agenda of his own: Use whatever means necessary to being the cons back to AFF.
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