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07-09-2007, 10:34 AM
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Any One Know What This Scripture Means
Judging from some of the remarks made on other threads, condemning me as though I attacked an individual, which I did not, neither did I call a name, it would appear that they are so scripturally illerate as to NOT understand it. Here is the scripture:
1Cr 14:29 Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.
Does anyone know what THIS scritpture mean:?
1Cr 14:32 And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.
1Cr 14:33 For God is not [the author] of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
Apparantly some are so spiritually illerate as to not understand these two verses either, judging only from past remarks. It is disheartening to learn that some of those remarks came from one who claims to be a pastor and has been in the ministry for more than three decades, if I rightly recall. It makes one to grieve over the church that he pastors.
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07-09-2007, 10:36 AM
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Some would do well to recognize that judging the prophecy isn't the same as judging the prophet.
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"Then answered Amos, and said to Amaziah, I was no prophet, neither was I a prophet's son; but I was an herdman, and a gatherer of sycomore fruit:
And the LORD took me as I followed the flock, and the LORD said unto me, Go, prophesy unto my people Israel."
--Amos 7:14-15
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07-09-2007, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Amos
Some would do well to recognize that judging the prophecy isn't the same as judging the prophet.
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Exactly right. Two different matters entirely. It is a point that some obviously cannot delienate.
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07-09-2007, 10:56 AM
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She makes me look good!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brother Strange
Judging from some of the remarks made on other threads, condemning me as though I attacked an individual, which I did not, neither did I call a name, it would appear that they are so scripturally illerate as to NOT understand it. Here is the scripture:
1Cr 14:29 Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.
Does anyone know what THIS scritpture mean:?
1Cr 14:32 And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.
1Cr 14:33 For God is not [the author] of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
Apparantly some are so spiritually illerate as to not understand these two verses either, judging only from past remarks. It is disheartening to learn that some of those remarks came from one who claims to be a pastor and has been in the ministry for more than three decades, if I rightly recall. It makes one to grieve over the church that he pastors.
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Bro. Strange,
You are too good of a man to go this route!
Comments made on the forum are just what they are. Sometimes we just dialog trying to figure certain posts out.
Please, you said that there was a prophet who prophesied under a different spirit, and you said the worship was influenced by another spirit and was like the golden calf worship Moses encountered...
You ought to know that these types of remarks are going to bring up a fuss especially from peole who know and respect the people who were propagating the things that were an offense to you.
you have now come back claiming to have never said it was demonic.
please answer this question and I'll let it go,
Was the worship around the golden calf demonic?
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07-09-2007, 11:02 AM
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Still Figuring It Out.
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Originally Posted by triumphant1
Was the worship around the golden calf demonic?
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Why would the worship around the golden calf be demonic?
It was of a dangerous variety though....
It was a misguided worship built on the feelings and reasoning of the carnal mind.
It was from the carnal mind... which is enmity against God.
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07-09-2007, 11:04 AM
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Jesus' Name Pentecostal
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Brother Strange,
You are highly respected here.
You are a man of experience and discernment.
You have walked in the Spirit for a long time.
You posted your heart and some took exception to some of the things you said.
Then, things escalated. Some folks spoke a little too hastily and vehemently.
Because we're human and still carrying around this old man of flesh, sometimes we do that.
You don't have to justify yourself.
Why not just let it drop?
and let the thread disappear off the "new posts" section into oblivion?
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Sam also known as Jim Ellis
Apostolic in doctrine
Pentecostal in experience
Charismatic in practice
Non-denominational in affiliation
Inter-denominational in fellowship
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07-09-2007, 11:05 AM
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She makes me look good!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Digging4Truth
Why would the worship around the golden calf be demonic?
It was of a dangerous variety though....
It was a misguided worship built on the feelings and reasoning of the carnal mind.
It was from the carnal mind... which is enmity against God.
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You've got to be joking right?
It was idol worship...
The people danced naked before a golden god...
How can it not be demonic in nature...
Good grief...
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07-09-2007, 11:08 AM
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Still Figuring It Out.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by triumphant1
You've got to be joking right?
It was idol worship...
The people danced naked before a golden God...
How can it not be demonic in nature...
Good grief...
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Uh....
These things are not outside the unregenerated nature of man.
What indication do you have from scripture that it was demonic?
It was false... that is for sure.
But to say it was demonic would be to say that what they did was influenced by demons.
Nothing they did was outside the ability of man, on his own, to conjure in his own misled & carnal reasoning.
Is there any scriptural reason you have for you insistence that this was demonic?
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Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are [these]; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Gal 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Gal 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told Unregistered in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
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These are the works of the FLESH... not of demons....
Of course... something that is demonic might well include these things but these things do not, in and of themselves, denote demonic influence. Man is degenerate enough on his own to do these things.
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07-09-2007, 11:09 AM
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Sister Alvear
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It is ok elder. I think you were misunderstood by some. We all love you and have great confidence in you. We are all at times quick to judge and you were judged very quickly. You are a great person!
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07-09-2007, 11:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Amos
Some would do well to recognize that judging the prophecy isn't the same as judging the prophet.
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I can't see how the two can be separated. If a prophet is speaking words from his own mind and God is NOT putting the words in his mouth, wouldn't that make him a false prophet?
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His banner over me is LOVE....  My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
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