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Old 07-09-2007, 10:56 AM
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Judging from some of the remarks made on other threads, condemning me as though I attacked an individual, which I did not, neither did I call a name, it would appear that they are so scripturally illerate as to NOT understand it. Here is the scripture:

1Cr 14:29 Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.

Does anyone know what THIS scritpture mean:?

1Cr 14:32 And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.


1Cr 14:33 For God is not [the author] of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

Apparantly some are so spiritually illerate as to not understand these two verses either, judging only from past remarks. It is disheartening to learn that some of those remarks came from one who claims to be a pastor and has been in the ministry for more than three decades, if I rightly recall. It makes one to grieve over the church that he pastors.
Bro. Strange,

You are too good of a man to go this route!

Comments made on the forum are just what they are. Sometimes we just dialog trying to figure certain posts out.

Please, you said that there was a prophet who prophesied under a different spirit, and you said the worship was influenced by another spirit and was like the golden calf worship Moses encountered...

You ought to know that these types of remarks are going to bring up a fuss especially from peole who know and respect the people who were propagating the things that were an offense to you.

you have now come back claiming to have never said it was demonic.

please answer this question and I'll let it go,

Was the worship around the golden calf demonic?
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Old 07-09-2007, 11:02 AM
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Was the worship around the golden calf demonic?
Why would the worship around the golden calf be demonic?

It was of a dangerous variety though....

It was a misguided worship built on the feelings and reasoning of the carnal mind.

It was from the carnal mind... which is enmity against God.
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Old 07-09-2007, 11:05 AM
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Why would the worship around the golden calf be demonic?

It was of a dangerous variety though....

It was a misguided worship built on the feelings and reasoning of the carnal mind.

It was from the carnal mind... which is enmity against God.
You've got to be joking right?

It was idol worship...

The people danced naked before a golden god...

How can it not be demonic in nature...

Good grief...
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Old 07-09-2007, 11:08 AM
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You've got to be joking right?

It was idol worship...

The people danced naked before a golden God...

How can it not be demonic in nature...

Good grief...
Uh....

These things are not outside the unregenerated nature of man.

What indication do you have from scripture that it was demonic?

It was false... that is for sure.

But to say it was demonic would be to say that what they did was influenced by demons.

Nothing they did was outside the ability of man, on his own, to conjure in his own misled & carnal reasoning.

Is there any scriptural reason you have for you insistence that this was demonic?

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Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are [these]; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Gal 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Gal 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told Unregistered in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
These are the works of the FLESH... not of demons....

Of course... something that is demonic might well include these things but these things do not, in and of themselves, denote demonic influence. Man is degenerate enough on his own to do these things.
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Old 07-09-2007, 11:20 AM
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Uh....

These things are not outside the unregenerated nature of man.

What indication do you have from scripture that it was demonic?

It was false... that is for sure.

But to say it was demonic would be to say that what they did was influenced by demons.

Nothing they did was outside the ability of man, on his own, to conjure in his own misled & carnal reasoning.

Is there any scriptural reason you have for you insistence that this was demonic?



These are the works of the FLESH... not of demons....

Of course... something that is demonic might well include these things but these things do not, in and of themselves, denote demonic influence. Man is degenerate enough on his own to do these things.
I can understand your reasoning here for sure although I don't agree...

When the flesh is allowed to go into idol worship on the scale of chanting, dancing, and entertaining other spirits, in every instance I have seen, it is demonic in nature...

Besides the fact that BS openly made references to the devil and his influence...
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Old 07-09-2007, 12:36 PM
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Uh....

These things are not outside the unregenerated nature of man.

What indication do you have from scripture that it was demonic?

It was false... that is for sure.

But to say it was demonic would be to say that what they did was influenced by demons.

Nothing they did was outside the ability of man, on his own, to conjure in his own misled & carnal reasoning.

Is there any scriptural reason you have for you insistence that this was demonic?



These are the works of the FLESH... not of demons....


Of course... something that is demonic might well include these things but these things do not, in and of themselves, denote demonic influence. Man is degenerate enough on his own to do these things.
Oh now, now, now!

I purposely witheld this remark to see if anyone of these brilliant souls could figure it out for themselves.

Anyway, thanks for this answer. I just did not want to dignify those that demanded answers with a proper response. I just wanted to see how long they would wallow in such ignorance as they project.

But, judging from their responses so far, I doubt that this, your very good answer will satisfy them either.
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Old 07-09-2007, 11:25 AM
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The people danced naked before a golden God...
Correction.. LITTLE 'g', friend. LITTLE 'g'.
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Old 07-09-2007, 11:27 AM
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Correction.. LITTLE 'g', friend. LITTLE 'g'.
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Edited! Edited! Edited!!!!!
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Old 07-09-2007, 11:04 AM
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Brother Strange,
You are highly respected here.
You are a man of experience and discernment.
You have walked in the Spirit for a long time.
You posted your heart and some took exception to some of the things you said.
Then, things escalated. Some folks spoke a little too hastily and vehemently.
Because we're human and still carrying around this old man of flesh, sometimes we do that.
You don't have to justify yourself.
Why not just let it drop?
and let the thread disappear off the "new posts" section into oblivion?
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Old 07-09-2007, 12:28 PM
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Brother Strange,
You are highly respected here.
You are a man of experience and discernment.
You have walked in the Spirit for a long time.
You posted your heart and some took exception to some of the things you said.
Then, things escalated. Some folks spoke a little too hastily and vehemently.
Because we're human and still carrying around this old man of flesh, sometimes we do that.
You don't have to justify yourself.
Why not just let it drop?
and let the thread disappear off the "new posts" section into oblivion?
You are indeed a very wise man bro. Sam. Most of us know that and respect you for the very same things that you have said of me.

Time restraints will certainly cause me to do as you have suggested.

Here I have intentionally done, probably what I should not have done. I have been solicitous of remarks for the shallow reason that are readily appearant in some responses in these threads in question. My bad! It should not be sport with me. But then, Elijah found sport in the incredible foolishness of the prophets of Baal on Mt. Carmel. Maybe I should be a bit more mature than he. In my sport, I have found cause for grief as well.
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