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Old 01-09-2015, 12:25 PM
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BTW as far as the packaging insert. The way the flu vaccine is made is predictive and prescriptive. They predict the next strain to come about and make a vaccine.

Thats why it's not tested. By the time it's tested, everyone would have already gotten it lol
Sorry, don't buy that explanation. There are several strains they have which they can test against. They don't.

Several on my team got flu shots last year. They all got sick within a week.

Never taken a flu shot, haven't had the flu since I was a teenager.

I don't do shots and vaccines, packed with toxins. I eat well, sleep well and use natural preventative means.
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Old 01-09-2015, 01:40 PM
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Re: Seal the Borders! American Flu is EPIDEMIC!

amen to that.
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Old 01-17-2015, 05:25 AM
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Re: Seal the Borders! American Flu is EPIDEMIC!

If JD would stop patting himself on the back for his astute observations during the Ebola scare and openly admit that his foreknowledge was lacking when he chose to vote for Obama, then I could stomach the horn tooting. But his constant efforts to make himself feel better about helping to put one of the all time worst president into office or to ignore entirely the huge gaffes and missteps this president has made this second term, wears thin on me.
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Re: Seal the Borders! American Flu is EPIDEMIC!

I work at a hospital and have for the past 5 years, I have not once gotten the flu shot and have not once contracted the flu.

Something is up when a woman causes an outcry because she refuses to be quarantined for ebola (I'm referring to a while back when the supposed nurse "Kaci Hicox" did this.) It was all over the news, she absolutely refused to go into quarantine, then you do a little background research on her and what do you find?

http://www.naturalnews.com/files/PDF...Conference.pdf

In this PDF on page 138, 5th row down, second column you will see that she was a student and graduated in 2012 in a 2 year program for the CDC. As a trained epidemiologist. Why would a trained epidemiologist refuse quarantine? Why would she be on the national news saying shes a nurse and not once stating she is an Epidemiologist?? As a branch the CDC models itself after the miltitary, they run counter intelligence and the whole nine yards, so why would she be so lax, being a trained officer, with something as serious as ebola, if ebola is a true threat?

Its a misinformation campaign to get americans to willingly request quarantine. Because everyone was so afraid of ebola there was an outcry to have her quarantined, thus getting the people to voluntarily offer up themselves for quarantine. Because of this situation a law was passed that changed the normal requirements for quarantine to allowing healthy people to be quarantined as well as the sick.... hmmmm. Officer trained by CDC? Each little law that passes like that just confirms the age we are in. Now I'm not saying this because I believe we should do something or anything because we can't and there is no use in fighting to preserve something that is going to crumble and fade away in the end anyway, if Gods word be true.

But either way as a christian, immunizations and shots and so on and so forth shouldn't even necessarily be a topic of discussion. The bible explains that all sickness and disease is a spirit multiple times, and you can't kill a spirit with a chemical.

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Old 01-17-2015, 05:48 PM
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Sorry, don't buy that explanation. There are several strains they have which they can test against. They don't.

Several on my team got flu shots last year. They all got sick within a week.

Never taken a flu shot, haven't had the flu since I was a teenager.

I don't do shots and vaccines, packed with toxins. I eat well, sleep well and use natural preventative means.
they can test against a strain. they can't test against a strain that has not mutated yet and THAT was my point. they can only test AFTER people start getting sick with it


There is no need to test it vs an old strain since they are using the old strains to make a new shot...Why would you test it vs an old strain when its the NEW strain we need to prevent?

Ive never gotten sick and I have been taking it every year for close to 15 years


Also the flu shot does not prevent the cold or other respiratory viruses.

What about people who get a seasonal flu vaccine and still get sick with flu-like symptoms?

There are several reasons why someone might get a flu-like illness, even after they have been vaccinated against flu.
  1. One reason is that some people can become ill from other respiratory viruses besides flu such as rhinoviruses, which are associated with the common cold, cause symptoms similar to flu, and also spread and cause illness during the flu season. The flu vaccine only protects against influenza viruses, not other viruses.
  2. Another explanation is that it is possible to be exposed to influenza viruses, which cause the flu, shortly before getting vaccinated or during the two-week period after vaccination that it takes the body to develop immune protection. This exposure may result in a person becoming ill with flu before protection from the vaccine takes effect.
  3. A third reason why some people may experience flu like symptoms despite getting vaccinated is that they may have been exposed to a flu virus that is very different from the viruses the vaccine is designed to protect against. The ability of a flu vaccine to protect a person depends largely on the similarity or “match” between the viruses selected to make the vaccine and those spreading and causing illness. There are many different flu viruses that spread and cause illness among people. For more information, see Influenza (Flu) Viruses.
  4. The final explanation for experiencing flu-like symptoms after vaccination is that unfortunately, the flu vaccine doesn't always provide adequate protection against the flu. This is more likely to occur among people that have weakened immune systems or people age 65 and older.
http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/misconceptions.htm
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Old 01-17-2015, 05:50 PM
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I work at a hospital and have for the past 5 years, I have not once gotten the flu shot and have not once contracted the flu.

Something is up when a woman causes an outcry because she refuses to be quarantined for ebola (I'm referring to a while back when the supposed nurse "Kaci Hicox" did this.) It was all over the news, she absolutely refused to go into quarantine, then you do a little background research on her and what do you find?

http://www.naturalnews.com/files/PDF...Conference.pdf

In this PDF on page 138, 5th row down, second column you will see that she was a student and graduated in 2012 in a 2 year program for the CDC. As a trained epidemiologist. Why would a trained epidemiologist refuse quarantine? Why would she be on the national news saying shes a nurse and not once stating she is an Epidemiologist?? As a branch the CDC models itself after the miltitary, they run counter intelligence and the whole nine yards, so why would she be so lax, being a trained officer, with something as serious as ebola, if ebola is a true threat?

Its a misinformation campaign to get americans to willingly request quarantine. Because everyone was so afraid of ebola there was an outcry to have her quarantined, thus getting the people to voluntarily offer up themselves for quarantine. Because of this situation a law was passed that changed the normal requirements for quarantine to allowing healthy people to be quarantined as well as the sick.... hmmmm. Officer trained by CDC? Each little law that passes like that just confirms the age we are in. Now I'm not saying this because I believe we should do something or anything because we can't and there is no use in fighting to preserve something that is going to crumble and fade away in the end anyway, if Gods word be true.

But either way as a christian, immunizations and shots and so on and so forth shouldn't even necessarily be a topic of discussion. The bible explains that all sickness and disease is a spirit multiple times, and you can't kill a spirit with a chemical.
Oh please tell us more. BTW do you handle snakes too?
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Old 01-20-2015, 08:52 AM
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Re: Seal the Borders! American Flu is EPIDEMIC!

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If JD would stop patting himself on the back for his astute observations during the Ebola scare and openly admit that his foreknowledge was lacking when he chose to vote for Obama, then I could stomach the horn tooting. But his constant efforts to make himself feel better about helping to put one of the all time worst president into office or to ignore entirely the huge gaffes and missteps this president has made this second term, wears thin on me.
But President Obama is one of the best President's our country has ever had!

History books, when we're Granpa's, will talk about this time period and reflect on the effective leadership of Obama through these troubling times.

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Re: Seal the Borders! American Flu is EPIDEMIC!

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I work at a hospital and have for the past 5 years, I have not once gotten the flu shot and have not once contracted the flu.

Something is up when a woman causes an outcry because she refuses to be quarantined for ebola (I'm referring to a while back when the supposed nurse "Kaci Hicox" did this.) It was all over the news, she absolutely refused to go into quarantine, then you do a little background research on her and what do you find?

http://www.naturalnews.com/files/PDF...Conference.pdf

In this PDF on page 138, 5th row down, second column you will see that she was a student and graduated in 2012 in a 2 year program for the CDC. As a trained epidemiologist. Why would a trained epidemiologist refuse quarantine? Why would she be on the national news saying shes a nurse and not once stating she is an Epidemiologist?? As a branch the CDC models itself after the miltitary, they run counter intelligence and the whole nine yards, so why would she be so lax, being a trained officer, with something as serious as ebola, if ebola is a true threat?

Its a misinformation campaign to get americans to willingly request quarantine. Because everyone was so afraid of ebola there was an outcry to have her quarantined, thus getting the people to voluntarily offer up themselves for quarantine. Because of this situation a law was passed that changed the normal requirements for quarantine to allowing healthy people to be quarantined as well as the sick.... hmmmm. Officer trained by CDC? Each little law that passes like that just confirms the age we are in. Now I'm not saying this because I believe we should do something or anything because we can't and there is no use in fighting to preserve something that is going to crumble and fade away in the end anyway, if Gods word be true.

But either way as a christian, immunizations and shots and so on and so forth shouldn't even necessarily be a topic of discussion. The bible explains that all sickness and disease is a spirit multiple times, and you can't kill a spirit with a chemical.
I think you might have a valid point with this being the begnining of the government trying to get us to willingly go along with something bizarre, in the future.
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Oh please tell us more. BTW do you handle snakes too?
It's hard to take some seriously when they lower themselves to tactics that teenagers use with their parents. Not to say I haven't used my fair share of sarcasm before but it never panned out in my favor. Also, disprove what I said and I will humbly concede, I'm not here to argue. I'm trying to learn, not be close minded and bellow my beliefs without willingness to hear others making fun of those I don't agree with... Destructive messages such as yours hinders the learning process for both yourself and I. Again, you disprove what I said and I will humbly concede. I don't want to be wrong and if I am I would like to know, because as of right now that's what I know to be true, you don't know anything unless your shown correct?

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