Are Infants Really Born Sinless?

[Jacob's Ladder]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Mat 9:12 But when he heard it, he said, "Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick.
Mat 9:13 Go and learn what this means, 'I desire mercy, and not sacrifice.' For I came not to call the righteous, but sinners."

So Jesus didn't come for the babies because they're sinless and already saved, yes?

[acerrak]

Originally Posted by Jacob's Ladder

So Jesus didn't come for the babies because they're sinless and already saved, yes?

well who is condeming them? what law in the bible is condeming them?

again Jesus came to fullfill the Law, yet what commandment has that baby broken, again you dont answer this as well

[Aquila]

All are born with a sin nature (intrinsic predisposition to sin). Yet infants haven't "sinned".

[acerrak]

Originally Posted by Aquila

All are born with a sin nature (intrinsic predisposition to sin). Yet infants haven't "sinned".

he doesnt get it aquilla he is more interested throwing stones at them.
He still cant even say what sin there guilty of and i have asked him several times.

In order to sin one must break the Law,

When a baby stands before God, what Sin is being charged to it? You were born?

[Jacob's Ladder]

Originally Posted by Jacob's Ladder

So then pretty much everything I learned is correct, yes?

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Mat 9:12 But when he heard it, he said, "Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick.
Mat 9:13 Go and learn what this means, 'I desire mercy, and not sacrifice.' For I came not to call the righteous, but sinners."

Originally Posted by Jacob's Ladder

So Jesus didn't come for the babies because they're sinless and already saved, yes?

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Praxeas,

Furthermore, would you agree that babies are sinless and also "saved," and then when they reach a level of understanding they become "lost", but they when they obey Acts 2:38 they become saved again?

[Jacob's Ladder]

Originally Posted by Aquila

All are born with a sin nature (intrinsic predisposition to sin). Yet infants haven't "sinned".

Aquila,

Would you then agree that infants profit nothing from Jesus' coming until they reach an age of understanding, yes?

A simple yes or no would suffice.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Jacob's Ladder

Aquila,

Would you then agree that infants profit nothing from Jesus' coming until they reach an age of understanding, yes?

A simple yes or no would suffice.

That's a loaded question and no one with an ounce of brains would ever fall for it.

The truth is, infants are born with a "sin nature". This means that all human beings are predisposed to sinful behaviors. Now, while an infant has a "sin nature" (predisposition to sin) an infant hasn't technically "sinned" yet.

Eventually sinful actions will result from the child's sin nature. However, until the willfully sin, they are "sinless".

[acerrak]

Originally Posted by Jacob's Ladder

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Praxeas,

Furthermore, would you agree that babies are sinless and also "saved," and then when they reach a level of understanding they become "lost", but they when they obey Acts 2:38 they become saved again?

romans 7:9-11
Once I was alive apart from law; but when the commandment came, sin sprang to life and I died.

I found that the very commandment that was intended to bring life actually brought death

For sin, seizing the opportunity afforded by the commandment, deceived me, and through the commandment put me to death

so when did sin decieve a baby to break the law. Even paul mentions here i was alive then i died. For Sin decieved me and through the commandment put me to death.

[Jacob's Ladder]

Originally Posted by Aquila

That's a loaded question and no one with an ounce of brains would ever fall for it.

The truth is, infants are born with a "sin nature". This means that all human beings are predisposed to sinful behaviors. Now, while an infant has a "sin nature" (predisposition to sin) an infant hasn't technically "sinned" yet.

Eventually sinful actions will result from the child's sin nature. However, until the willfully sin, they are "sinless".

Aquila,

It's a simple question. Let me try make this question the easiest possible.

Babies are sinless, yes? Jesus came for the sinners, yes?

You said babies are born with a sin nature but technically are sinless above in your post, yes?

Here's the simple question.

Do babies profit from Jesus' coming while they're in an infancy (sinless) stage?

[acerrak]

Originally Posted by Jacob's Ladder

Aquila,

It's a simple question. Let me try make this question the easiest possible.

Babies are sinless, yes? Jesus came for the sinners, yes?

You said babies are born with a sin nature but technically are sinless above in your post, yes?

Here's the simple question.

Do babies profit from Jesus' coming while they're in an infancy (sinless) stage?

God created man and said it was Good, and im really not posting to you, since i know your not gonna answer. but this is for other viewers who have similiar question

When has the baby fallen out of Gods grace.

Adam and eve fell out of God's grace and into judgment when they sinned,
NOW when has a baby committed sin in order to be under the judgment of God?

If God formed the child and put the breathe of Life into it why would he several months later condem the baby to hell just because it didnt servive the first few months of its life.

again were did the baby go wrong and sin?

These are simple question that Jacobbs ladder cannot answer.

Sin is the breaking of the Law. again what Sin is the Child on trial for.

One must question what motive or how they belive that condeming babies to hell shows Gods love to his creation.