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11-08-2010, 03:24 PM
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Re: Can church be bad for your health?
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What the heck does that mean?
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That means that when you pray together, if God gives you instructions, you best make sure it gets the pastor's approval. My wife and I served in leadership of our first church. They issued an order that all in leadership had to attend morning prayer at like 6am twice a week. Well, we only had one vehicle. I had to get my wife to work, drop off our son at the baby sitter, and drive across town to get myself to work. We prayed and felt like the Lord told us we didn't have to go. I checked in with the pastor on this and he appeared to agree. After his wife confronted my wife and accused us of "rebellion", he seemed to forget that we had agreed on what God told us. That was the beginning of me and my wife being black listed. My wife was shattered. She wanted to leave and go to another church. I told her that we'd done nothing wrong and that it was a misunderstanding, surely leadership would see that, we were to remain faithful. I forced my wife to attend with me for nearly 8 months while she was cut out of everything and we were "gossipped" about. Eventually after a vacation to Canada, the week away gave us some peace and clarity, we decided to find another church. But the damage was done. She no longer trusted a church with her heart and soul. And that was beginning of her fall. I shouldn't have forced her to do anything. I should have heeded her feelings and found someplace that would be safe. I failed her. Of course when a gent she worked with gave her respect, affirmed that she didn't have to tolerate "that ........", and her friends "cheered her on" when she decided to stay out partying with them, leaving me home with our child... well... how can I blame her? She found people who seemed to really care... something we didn't find in church.
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11-08-2010, 03:25 PM
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Re: Can church be bad for your health?
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I'm sure it is different for everyone, but for me, I could tell in 1 or 2 sessions whether I was going to able to work with a particular therapist or not.
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How much did two sessions cost you? (Hope that's not too personal.)
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11-08-2010, 03:26 PM
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Re: Can church be bad for your health?
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How much did two sessions cost you? (Hope that's not too personal.)
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Our insurance covers sessions and they only cost the patient $8 per visit.
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11-08-2010, 03:27 PM
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Re: Can church be bad for your health?
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So, you personally know 120 counselors? I find that a bit of a stretch.
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What number do you have in mind?
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11-08-2010, 03:28 PM
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Re: Can church be bad for your health?
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You have to be licensed to get reimbursement.
Rabbi's don't have to do Med school for circumcisions either.
There are lots of counseling jobs in jails, substance abuse, schools, churches and other applications that have not passed state board exams.
Pastors have to abide by ethics rules and avoind misconduct. The states don't get very involved with church counseling.
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No. As a co-pastor, I could not counsel. As a domestic violence advocate (doesn't that just sound wrong???) I could not counsel.
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11-08-2010, 03:29 PM
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Re: Can church be bad for your health?
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What number do you have in mind?
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I don't have a clue how many counselors you know, but it seems that 120-132 would be an awful lot!
You said you knew a dozen good counselors and you could name ten times that many that weren't - so that would be 132 counselors.
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11-08-2010, 03:29 PM
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Re: Can church be bad for your health?
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Our insurance covers sessions and they only cost the patient $8 per visit.
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Well, ya may as well go on a hunt with those prices!!
BTW, just for the record, I don't think I even know 120 pastors.
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11-08-2010, 03:29 PM
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Re: Can church be bad for your health?
I get free counseling through my employer, called Employee Care.
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11-08-2010, 03:31 PM
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Re: Can church be bad for your health?
Man, it's so beautiful outside. I just went for a walk in the woods. That's some good counseling there!! 
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11-08-2010, 03:35 PM
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Re: Can church be bad for your health?
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How much did two sessions cost you? (Hope that's not too personal.)
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Honestly, I don't remember exactly. This was back in 1993. I know that a lot of the cost was covered under my major medical policy so all I had was the co-pay. I exceeded the limit though and then had to pay out of pocket. I think the rate back then was around $100 an hour. I have no idea what it would run today.
But it was worth it.
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