Elder Ensey's article about tv advertizing

[triumphant1]

Originally Posted by Brett Prince

T1, I do not see a double standard. This is an Apostolic forum. We do not have the right to deride an Apostolic minister in the manner that you have done. We have, on the other hand, the right to defend whether or not there is salvation outside of Acts 2:38 with tongues. TD Jakes and Rod Parsley, in many posters' opinion, do not preach the Acts 2:38 with tongues message. This does not give these posters the right to same defaming things about them, save to state that they do not believe that they preach a message that brings the lost to become saved. However, issues of standards are matters that happen within the Apostolic community as a whole...that is with people who do preach Jesus Name baptism, the Oneness of the Godhead as opposed to the trinity, and the infilling of the Holy Ghost with tongues--regardless of where they place salvation. We can refute another position, and we can state our differences, but we do not have to resort to name calling and labeling in such a way that we are making a mockery of another person's ministry, character, or good name. Nor should we do that with their church or place of ministry, be it a particular assembly, or the production of a magazine.

Regardless of whether they are Apostolic or not does not give us the right to call names or the like. To declare our beliefs as to whether they preach a saving message is certainly allowed.

And, T1, just because somebody else does it, liberal or conservative, I trust that this does mean that you would decide that it should be repeated by a person of integrity--and I am trusting that you are.

I value your comments. Thank you for adding to the discussion here. I only mean well. Peace, good sir.

I receive what you say in the spirit in which was given.

Thanks.

I think I will lay low. Peace out!

[IAintMovin]

Originally Posted by Brett Prince

T1, I do not see a double standard. This is an Apostolic forum. We do not have the right to deride an Apostolic minister in the manner that you have done. We have, on the other hand, the right to defend whether or not there is salvation outside of Acts 2:38 with tongues. TD Jakes and Rod Parsley, in many posters' opinion, do not preach the Acts 2:38 with tongues message. This does not give these posters the right to same defaming things about them, save to state that they do not believe that they preach a message that brings the lost to become saved. However, issues of standards are matters that happen within the Apostolic community as a whole...that is with people who do preach Jesus Name baptism, the Oneness of the Godhead as opposed to the trinity, and the infilling of the Holy Ghost with tongues--regardless of where they place salvation. We can refute another position, and we can state our differences, but we do not have to resort to name calling and labeling in such a way that we are making a mockery of another person's ministry, character, or good name. Nor should we do that with their church or place of ministry, be it a particular assembly, or the production of a magazine.

Regardless of whether they are Apostolic or not does not give us the right to call names or the like. To declare our beliefs as to whether they preach a saving message is certainly allowed.

And, T1, just because somebody else does it, liberal or conservative, I trust that this does mean that you would decide that it should be repeated by a person of integrity--and I am trusting that you are.

I value your comments. Thank you for adding to the discussion here. I only mean well. Peace, good sir.

Good post bro... if only the whole of the board understood this.......

[Sister Alvear]

We should do our best to live in peace.

[retsambeW]

Originally Posted by triumphant1

But of coarse...I sould have expected...what about this:

What about it...it is true. No slam in there.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by triumphant1

But of coarse...I sould have expected...what about this:

Triumph, if you think someone has broken the rules, report it, don't just expect the Admins to read every post. Also next time, if you have an issue with Admin decisions, or a question, take it to them in PM please.

thanks

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by retsambeW

What about it...it is true. No slam in there.

It's a huge difference between saying "I think what so and so teaches on such and such doctrine is in error" and name calling, mockery and accusations to the moral character of someone like saying they are liars.

[triumphant1]

Originally Posted by retsambeW

What about it...it is true. No slam in there.

Of coarse not.....

[retsambeW]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

It's a huge difference between saying "I think what so and so teaches on such and such doctrine is in error" and name calling, mockery and accusations to the moral character of someone like saying they are liars.

I agree, Prax. I don't see the connection between the offending post, and the one about Jakes. Looks like apples and oranges, to me.

[triumphant1]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

It's a huge difference between saying "I think what so and so teaches on such and such doctrine is in error" and name calling, mockery and accusations to the moral character of someone like saying they are liars.

I think what JRE teaches is wrong and that his Library Builder magazine is not as much about building libraries as it is about propagating his personal biases...

Is that better...or have I offended the conservatives again to the point of needing to edit?

[retsambeW]

Originally Posted by triumphant1

Of coarse not.....

Obviously, I can't, and would not try to speak for everyone on this board. But I am just a tad old fashioned in the ways of being Apostolic. I am not here to slam anyone, or be judgemental towards anyone. However, according to basic Apostolic Theology, in my belief, there is only one way to be saved. Now, I have visited Parsley's church. I have talked with some of his staff. He does not believe the gospel. Period. No slam involved, just stating facts.

In some folks way of thinking, I am too structured and unbending in my feeling about this. They have pointed this out to me in times past. However, I do not recall a time, whether at FCF or here, that anyone has ever slammed me for this. There is a difference, they stated the facts as they saw it without going after my character.