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06-17-2018, 07:05 AM
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Re: The Sacred Church Building
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YAH is Jesus in his humanity. Or we could say Jesus is YAH in his humanity.
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Then what's the mix up? Do you baptize people in the name of Yah, or Rasta Jah, mon!
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06-17-2018, 07:10 AM
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Re: The Sacred Church Building
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Be wise and receive instruction.
Psalms 68:4
4Sing unto God, sing praises to his name: extol him that rideth upon the heavens by his name JAH, and rejoice before him.
God's name is YAH.
The J is said like a Y. The NJKV fixes that.
When you see JAH, YAH, IAH its all the same thing. You say it the same way. Gods name.
When you see a name like Isaiah, Jeremiah, Zecheriah the last 3 letters IAH means YAH the God of the Universe.
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I guess you are still waiting for Immanuel עִמָּנוּאֵל Ἐμμανουήλ,?
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06-17-2018, 07:19 AM
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Re: The Sacred Church Building
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Yes I performed for Church members and once for a backslidden Sister. Jesus tells us to take in strangers. You may not take all of them in and you may not keep them long, but if one makes it a habit of NOT taking in strangers:
THEY WILL BE CAST INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE.
Matt 25:41-46
41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: 42For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: 43I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. 44Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? 45Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. 46And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
Should we teach at least that we should be willing to at least take in some strangers?
If we do not Jesus says we are UNRIGHTEOUS AND WORTHY OF HELL.
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OK, this is how this works. You set a precedent when you perform a ceremony for non members or as in the backslider not a member in good standing. This also goes for house churches. Same sex couples can make the argument in a court that you are discriminating against them if you decline to perform a ceremony. If your faith and bylaws state you only perform ceremony for saints in good standing then anyone outside the church is exempt from having a ceremony performed. Also stops any other issues. Just opening the church building, or meeting house to anyone is just not happening. You yourself would be selective. So please refrain in trying to make people who have church buildings look like the bad guys if they don't turn their places of meetings into flop houses.
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06-17-2018, 08:43 AM
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Re: The Sacred Church Building
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OK, this is how this works. You set a precedent when you perform a ceremony for non members or as in the backslider not a member in good standing. This also goes for house churches. Same sex couples can make the argument in a court that you are discriminating against them if you decline to perform a ceremony. If your faith and bylaws state you only perform ceremony for saints in good standing then anyone outside the church is exempt from having a ceremony performed. Also stops any other issues. Just opening the church building, or meeting house to anyone is just not happening. You yourself would be selective. So please refrain in trying to make people who have church buildings look like the bad guys if they don't turn their places of meetings into flop houses.
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Yes I would be selective.
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You may not take all of them in and you may not keep them long, but if one makes it a habit of NOT taking in strangers:
THEY WILL BE CAST INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE.
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But those who turn away even their own Church members, not to mention strangers will have none to blame but themselves when Jesus turns them away from his kingdom with the words "depart from me ye cursed into everlasting fire".
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06-17-2018, 10:05 AM
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Re: The Sacred Church Building
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Yes I would be selective.
But those who turn away even their own Church members, not to mention strangers will have none to blame but themselves when Jesus turns them away from his kingdom with the words "depart from me ye cursed into everlasting fire".
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No one I know is doing that. What I am saying is that there are levels to every circumstance. My concern is that people aren’t GUILTED into allowing strangers into their homes. Or having to get into situation with habitual basket cases. Who literally feed off of well meaning church saints. That ain’t happening under my watch. If I can help it.
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06-17-2018, 10:09 AM
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Re: The Sacred Church Building
We are the TEMPLE....24/7
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06-17-2018, 11:44 AM
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Re: The Sacred Church Building
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No one I know is doing that. What I am saying is that there are levels to every circumstance. My concern is that people aren’t GUILTED into allowing strangers into their homes. Or having to get into situation with habitual basket cases. Who literally feed off of well meaning church saints. That ain’t happening under my watch. If I can help it.
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I am speaking in a general sense. I know that a great number of people are persuaded they need not to strain themselves to help the poor or the stranger. I am certainly not insinuating this is the case with you.
Nonetheless it is JESUS who actually says he will cast people into Hell that THOUGHT they were going to Heaven because they did not minister to various needs that came before them.
I believe Jesus is warning.....seriously warning us about this matter. And again I agree there are some cases we wont be able to help. That should not stop us from helping in the cases we can
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06-17-2018, 11:53 AM
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Re: The Sacred Church Building
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We are the TEMPLE....24/7
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Amen! We are his hands and feet and his place of rest!
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06-18-2018, 12:46 AM
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Re: The Sacred Church Building
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No one I know is doing that. What I am saying is that there are levels to every circumstance. My concern is that people aren’t GUILTED into allowing strangers into their homes. Or having to get into situation with habitual basket cases. Who literally feed off of well meaning church saints. That ain’t happening under my watch. If I can help it.
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If it doesn't come out of being a cheerful giving and is done begrudgingly its the same as doing nothing. Even though you took them in, it doesn't even count before God, anyways. So the action doesn't matter as much as the heart intent and motive behind the action. So just letting Dope fiend willy come stay in your house because the Bible says we should help those in need. By us being paranoid, and skeptical of him, we are only defeating the whole purpose in the first place. There is no scripture thats says "thou shalt make thyself a doormat to follow Me." If you aren't filling strongly urged by God to do anything or feeling apprehensive I say don't do it. No ifs andsor but's. But thats just me, I have a gifting with being a discerner of people. Hard times aren't all bad, prison taught me that, al I can say it's a gift from God. If something seems out of place, it probably is.
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06-18-2018, 03:20 AM
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Re: The Sacred Church Building
There are no sacred buildings. And most "church buildings" aren't owned by any churches anyway, they are owned by 501(c)3 non-profit corporations that call themselves "churches".
There is a reason the early apostolic churches never had special buildings dedicated to worship meetings. And it wasn't because of "persecution".
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