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07-01-2015, 03:14 PM
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Re: Effective evangelists?
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Originally Posted by Sean
You just dont get it do you?
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Sean, I see this all too clearly, you just want everyone to believe that what you are doing with a Bible translation is ordained of God.
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..I am the teacher,
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You are a minister, not a secular teacher or professor, your students come from many different backgrounds, there are those who are not comfortable with a KJV, will change to NKJV, or ESV, some will use BBE, because it is easier for THEM. Your job is to help THEM see Jesus Christ as their teacher, leader, and God. He that winneth souls is wise?
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I choose the curriculum...You would make a lousy public school teacher, when you let your students do their own thing and bring their own materials...LOL
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You see, you aren't a public school teacher, you are a minister, and therefore you want your students to be able to learn at their current level. If they are comfortable reading an ASV, or CEV, then so be it, they can still find truth and live for God. If a husband wants his wife to use an NIV, while he uses the KJV, then you have to allow that husband to make the decision on how he leads his family. Keep in mind the husband (KJV user), had made the decision for his wife to use the NIV, so he knows his wife better than you. Trespassing the husband's authority while your only agenda is getting the woman to read a Bible in Shakespearean English, isn't wise soul winning. IMHO.
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Yep, it is awesome, and they love it too!(once I get them into the KJV, they realize how annointed it is)
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Sean, this is why we are still on this topic! You continue to make these comments. So, when my Greek relatives, and my Apostolic brothers in Greece read the Bible in Greek it isn't anointed? When our Apostolic brothers in Mexico, Central America, South America, Caribbean, and Spain read their Spanish Bibles the word of God isn't anointed? You see Sean, you keep bringing us back to this topic, because of YOUR statements concerning the Elizabethan English Bible. Wycliffe and Tyndale would rebuke you for claiming one certain language is HOLY, just as the Roman Catholic Church claimed Latin was HOLY.
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07-01-2015, 03:27 PM
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Re: Effective evangelists?
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It goes both ways...I have been mocked too, big time(its just a little fun with certain individuals)
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Sean, from eschatology to tithing, you have a strong dislike for ANYONE who you feel believes differently than you. Wasn't it you who posted that pastors who accept tithes should die? Sean, in real life discussion you must be totally out there, and I cannot for the life of me believe that you could get any kind of group together to be with you as a TEACHER, for any great length of time.
If you went off on someone's wife who refused to get rid of her NIV, CEV, or ABC, they would leave your fellowship, and all those around you who witnessed the bloodshed, would give you the big adios! Sadly, you are a legend in your own mind.
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07-01-2015, 03:29 PM
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Re: Effective evangelists?
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Originally Posted by ApostolicKitty
I used to only use the NIV because it made more sense to me. It wasn't till I learned that there are Biblical questions you cannot answer and scriptures that are missing that I stopped using it as my main source.
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Amen, so you know that people are all at different levels. You felt comfortable with what you had (missing verses and all) yet, as you grew, you made a smooth transition. No one banging your head in that only a Bible from the 17th century is honored by God.
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07-01-2015, 03:32 PM
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Re: Effective evangelists?
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Lighten up sis
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Is that what you would tell a sister in your Bible study in front of her husband if she didn't relinquish her NIV? How do you eat corn on the cob with no teeth? So, sad.
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07-01-2015, 03:41 PM
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Re: Effective evangelists?
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Take it from the pro sis...it works my way. You guys are filling your minds with silly hypotheticals that never happen. They always see it my way, with JOY!
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Your a pro? Does the pastor at the new church you been attending realize your calling of an apostle prophet and teacher yet? Anyway, silly hypothetical questions aren't that silly, because they actually happen if you have been doing this consistently for any length of time. Roman Catholics who have been Catholics all their lives, REAL CATHOLICS not cradle Catholics, will use their Catholic Bible complete with Deuterocanonical books. But the Catholics won't have to worry about ditching their extra books when they get to your HBS. No, you are KJV only and therefore you also use the Deuterocanonical books, because those same anointed 60 translators who translated your KJV felt the need to include those books.
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"all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
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07-01-2015, 03:42 PM
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Re: Effective evangelists?
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You gotta take CONTROL of you HBS surroundings right off the bat. YOU are the teacher, not the student!
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That's the real gravy you like Sean?
Taking control.
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07-01-2015, 03:45 PM
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Re: Effective evangelists?
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Originally Posted by Sean
Just walk into a house full of Catholics, open your chart, lay a few rules(including the 1 Bible rule) and hand out KJV Bibles...Easy peasy!
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Lay out a few rules?
Another gravy sop?
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07-01-2015, 03:47 PM
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Re: Effective evangelists?
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One rule is the 5 minute rule...let them know that you are on a time schedule, and to wait 5 minutes before asking a question. They will likely get their answer before the 5 minutes is up because you are initiating the subject....
Advanced questions can wait until after the lesson.
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No doubt, because without Grandpa Google you are twisting in wind!
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"all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
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07-01-2015, 04:04 PM
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Re: Effective evangelists?
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Votivesoul gave it a good college try by showing Sean, 1 Corinthians 12:29. Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles? Yet, Sean refused to take the council, but feigned an apology, and went his merry way.
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I saw that. It was a great post! I mean Votivesoul's.
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Jude 21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life. 22 And of some have compassion , making a difference : 23 And others save with fear, pulling [them] out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
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07-01-2015, 04:05 PM
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Re: Effective evangelists?
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Your a pro? Does the pastor at the new church you been attending realize your calling of an apostle prophet and teacher yet? Anyway, silly hypothetical questions aren't that silly, because they actually happen if you have been doing this consistently for any length of time. Roman Catholics who have been Catholics all their lives, REAL CATHOLICS not cradle Catholics, will use their Catholic Bible complete with Deuterocanonical books. But the Catholics won't have to worry about ditching their extra books when they get to your HBS. No, you are KJV only and therefore you also use the Deuterocanonical books, because those same anointed 60 translators who translated your KJV felt the need to include those books.
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Yes, they did!
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