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Old 11-21-2016, 10:55 AM
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Thomas Weisser Article IBC Perspectives

What a great article that T Weisser written in IBC Perspectives.

This article is about the Oneness Message being preached in 1893.

One of the interesting point that I see here in America is the fascination with the idea of a hidden doctrine until 1916.

In many country we know that Acts 2:38 has been taught for centuries.

I like this article.

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Old 11-21-2016, 11:30 AM
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What a great article that T Weisser written in IBC Perspectives.

This article is about the Oneness Message being preached in 1893.

One of the interesting point that I see here in America is the fascination with the idea of a hidden doctrine until 1916.

In many country we know that Acts 2:38 has been taught for centuries.

I like this article.

What do you think?
Can you [post the article here for us to read?
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Old 11-21-2016, 02:35 PM
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http://ibcperspectives.com/2016/11/o...ached-in-1893/
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Old 11-23-2016, 01:11 PM
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Perhaps Weisser has more information on this, but there certainly isn't enough in this article to suggest that the Oneness Pentecostal message as a whole was being preached. Notice that there's no mention of God's nature (i.e., the perspective of the Godhead) in this article.

At best, this article alone suggests that there were others preaching the infilling of the Holy Spirit by speaking in other tongues. Just because that organization now holds to a view of Oneness today doesn't mean that it began with that view.

But again, I'm only referring to what could be deduced from this article alone.
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Old 11-21-2016, 02:30 PM
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Re: Thomas Weisser Article IBC Perspectives

Just do a search (weisser ibc perspectives.) This is exciting - I have always thought that true apostolic history has been taking place " under the radar" of what the world records as history. Thanks for your post! I want so badly to look into this further but lunchtime is over and it's back to work.
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Old 11-21-2016, 03:38 PM
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Re: Thomas Weisser Article IBC Perspectives

More in-depth article on this subject:

http://www.prolades.com/cra/regions/nam/mexico/iece.pdf
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More in-depth article on this subject:

http://www.prolades.com/cra/regions/nam/mexico/iece.pdf
Again I see a serious disconnect here.

All this article suggests is that the IECE currently holds Oneness Pentecostal views. There is very little historical evidence provided here that there was a Oneness view of the Godhead held in the late 19th and early 20th centuries by Stewart and others.

It seems to assume, though, that since the IECE currently holds those views, that these are the views that it originated with. This might be true with respect to the doctrine of salvation, but I don't see any evidence provided here regarding God's nature.

I'm not opposed to the idea that Oneness Pentecostal doctrines (in part, or as a whole) were preached prior to the early 20th century. All I'm saying is that these resources linked are only stepping stones to further research because very little information is given between the two.
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Old 11-21-2016, 05:25 PM
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Re: Thomas Weisser Article IBC Perspectives

Note: Under "similar threads" that show up (usually) down below the last post ofa thread there are two old threads referring to Weisser.
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I'm not seeing any "similar threads"??
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Old 11-21-2016, 06:31 PM
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Re: Thomas Weisser Article IBC Perspectives

It's right down below under the blue bar that reads "Currently active users" is another blue bar that reads "Similar threads." There are two threads from about 8 years ago. Meanwhile it's been interesting reaearch: prolade = a research organization headed by a Presbyterian into new developing religious organizations in the southern hemisphere. Thomas Weisser appears to be alive well and has a book site online. Some appear to question his research abilities, but at present the prolade account seems legitimate.j
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