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10-27-2016, 01:01 PM
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Clinton Is the Best Choice For the Unborn:
I've been trying to explain this for years. If you want to truly reduce the number of abortions in this country you have to address the needs and the concerns of women. Those needs and concerns are healthcare, income, poverty, contraceptives, education, cost of daycare, and family leave. Only the Democrats address these issues adequately. And that is why abortion rates have tended to drop under Democrats.
So, if you want to reduce the abortion rate and truly save the unborn....vote Democratic. If you want more lip service, more empty promises, less healthcare, lower incomes, more poverty, less access to contraceptives, less education, the elimination of family leave, and higher abortion rates....vote Republican.
The truth is that both parties are prochoice. But only one party truly addresses the issues and concerns of women and will, as a result, reduce the abortion rate.... the Democrats.
So, if you want progressive policies that reduce the abortion rate, vote Clinton. If you want more empty promises and higher abortion rates, vote Trump.
This isn't about prolife verses prochoice, because BOTH parties are prochoice in practice. This is about higher abortion rates vs. lower abortion rates. The Republicans are lying to you. Don't fall for Satan's bait and switch scheme. The lives of the unborn are depending upon you.
Hillary Clinton Is the Best Choice for Voters Against Abortion: http://m.christianpost.com/news/hill...on-170258/?m=1
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10-27-2016, 01:31 PM
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Re: Clinton Is the Best Choice For the Unborn:
Malarky!
Clinton spent a two minute segment at the last debate defending why it should be legal for babies to be murdered up to and including the day of potential childbirth.
Democrats and pro-choicers in general are sadists, sacrificing the unborn to their sex god.
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10-27-2016, 02:22 PM
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Re: Clinton Is the Best Choice For the Unborn:
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Malarky!
Clinton spent a two minute segment at the last debate defending why it should be legal for babies to be murdered up to and including the day of potential childbirth.
Democrats and pro-choicers in general are sadists, sacrificing the unborn to their sex god.
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We're talking about abortion rates. Not legality. Here's the deal, the Republicans aren't going to do anything about abortion. They NEED it every election to guilt trip Christians into voting for policies that are indeed against their best interests.
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10-27-2016, 03:35 PM
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Re: Clinton Is the Best Choice For the Unborn:
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We're talking about abortion rates. Not legality. Here's the deal, the Republicans aren't going to do anything about abortion. They NEED it every election to guilt trip Christians into voting for policies that are indeed against their best interests.
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Abortion is abortion, regardless of rates. Clinton is pro-murder of the unborn.
And you cannot truthfully claim the GOP hasn't tried to do anything about abortion, because they have. Unfortunately, the courts are liberal havens and use judicial activism to ensure any restrictions on abortion is defeated at the bench.
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10-27-2016, 01:35 PM
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Re: Clinton Is the Best Choice For the Unborn:
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I've been trying to explain this for years. If you want to truly reduce the number of abortions in this country you have to address the needs and the concerns of women. Those needs and concerns are healthcare, income, poverty, contraceptives, education, cost of daycare, and family leave. Only the Democrats address these issues adequately. And that is why abortion rates have tended to drop under Democrats.
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No they don't. Welfare is not a solution. All it does is create a dependency class in this country, who rely solely on the government to feed, house and clothe them. That's not helping people, that's helping themselves by bribing constituents to vote for them.
If Democrat policies toward poverty worked, we'd have no more poverty. Instead, we have increasing numbers of people on welfare and food stamps. What these people need are jobs, and that's what the Republicans bring to the table.
Democrats want people to depend on them. Republicans want people to depend on themselves and be independent. Give a man a fish, he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, he eats for a lifetime. That's the difference between Democrat and Republican.
Yes, Republican policies expect people to actually work for themselves, but that's precisely what this country was founded upon; hard work and independence.
I'm sorry that you're too blind to see that.
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10-27-2016, 02:51 PM
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No they don't. Welfare is not a solution. All it does is create a dependency class in this country, who rely solely on the government to feed, house and clothe them. That's not helping people, that's helping themselves by bribing constituents to vote for them.
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My mother was in welfare while I was growing up. My father walked out on us and suddenly she found herself as a single mother. She was on assistance until I entered Middle School. People talked welfare down so much it had a stigma that she hated, so she looked for work. She could only make minimum wage, so she had to work two jobs in order to make ends meet. Meanwhile, my grades crashed, I started skipping school, and breaking into yards and houses. I got into a lot of trouble. My first year of high school, I only attended 41 days. Mom was never home, had to work to pay the bills. She saw that she was losing me and she quit and got back on welfare. It took maybe 6 months to beat me back into obedience. LOL The schools unenrolled me that first year and listed me as a drop out. My mom re-enrolled me and I went back to high school. I got involved in JROTC and threw myself into my school work because that was all she'd allow me to do! LOL I made A's and B's and graduated, even gave the invocation at our graduation. I joined the Army and served as a Tanker (19K) and as a Combat Medic (91B10). I was in for 8 years. After getting out I worked in emergency medicine, therapeutic programming for the handicapped, and then I got into network security and database management, even got my MCSA. I'm no longer into emergency medicine, I got burned out. However, I'm working with security access controls now.
Do you know what creates dependency on welfare? Low, substandard, wages. If you can't make a living working, you gotta find a way to survive somehow. And let me tell you, working two jobs at $8 an hour just to barely survive isn't sustainable. Especially if you have kids that desperately need you as a parent. So, most either stay on welfare to survive or they get off welfare to work part time.... and do a little of their own "dealing" on the side. I've seen it first hand.
So, first....I'd like to say thank you to the American tax payer. I'm a success story. I'm a life that was changed and helped by the system. Also, I'd like to say there are millions more like me who are just too embarrassed to admit that they were raised on welfare.
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If Democrat policies toward poverty worked, we'd have no more poverty. Instead, we have increasing numbers of people on welfare and food stamps. What these people need are jobs, and that's what the Republicans bring to the table.
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You obviously don't know what the Democrat policies are truly intended to be for. We Democrats see welfare as a social safety net to keep single moms, single dads, and kids from free falling into destitution. Without any kind of assistance parents are forced to work two minimum wage jobs to keep a roof over their heads, due to the cost of living. Without any kind of insurance people are three times more likely to get involved in drug dealing, prostitution, or other illegal pursuits to survive. Welfare is designed to be a safety net. In Ohio you initially qualify for only 3 years public assistance. You must work at least 20 hours part time, volunteer, or attend school to receive benefits. The Democratic vision is to support single parents and their children while offering low earning single parents opportunities to further their education and increase their earning potential. And it is happening all the time, I've seen it and experienced it. My fiancé Christina works with St. Vincent de Paul and assists the homeless. Her job brings her into interacting with the Montgomery County Job Center. There people qualify for benefits, receive assistance in finding work, vocational training opportunities, and can apply for grants and student aid to assist with college. Don't believe the mess that everyone on welfare is lazy and doing nothing. It's a lie. There are thousands fighting and fighting hard to claw their way out, and many are succeeding.
Really? We saw a marked decrease in jobs under every Republican President we've had since Reagan. I know you didn't say that! ROFL!!!
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Democrats want people to depend on them. Republicans want people to depend on themselves and be independent. Give a man a fish, he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, he eats for a lifetime. That's the difference between Democrat and Republican.
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Another lie. How you gonna teach a man to fish when he doesn't even have a rod, reel, line, boat, or tackle??? Republicans teach a man to fish and leave him standing empty handed on the shore line while they wiz on by waving on their yachts. Democrats will give a man rod, line, reel, and limited amount of tackle, teach him to fish, and then turn him loose on the shore side. If the man wants to survive, he'll find a way to get more tackle and keep his rod and reel.
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10-27-2016, 01:53 PM
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Re: Clinton Is the Best Choice For the Unborn:
A - you provide nothing more than words in your assertion.
It appears that you are trying to sooth your conscience in voting for HRC with these "words".
No links, no stats, nothing.
You are saying that the end justifies the means.
Just like the communists used to say.
Now, how about addressing the assertion that you made, (which I asked you to prove),and you have not.
"EVERY Administration since Reagan has used private email servers and has deleted their more sensitive email correspondence"
Or is it your "opinion" just as the above and you have nothing to prove it.
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10-27-2016, 02:59 PM
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Re: Clinton Is the Best Choice For the Unborn:
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A - you provide nothing more than words in your assertion.
It appears that you are trying to sooth your conscience in voting for HRC with these "words".
No links, no stats, nothing.
You are saying that the end justifies the means.
Just like the communists used to say.
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Do your own homework Aegsm. If you vote Republican, you vote for MORE abortion, not less. The Republicans are liars and are not going to do anything to resolve the abortion issue. It's a lie. A lie to manipulate the simple minded into voting Republican to save babies.... babies that will die in greater numbers.... babies that the Republicans will ensure are still dying next election time.... because they need to rake in those prolife votes.
While yes, Democrats are Prochoice, leaving the choice to abort or choose life up to individual women. But the Republicans have learned to capitalize and exploit the deaths of millions of unborn for political gain, offering lies and empty promises about ending abortion.... lies and promises they don't ever intend to keep. Now, to me, that's diabolical. They're feasting on the blood of innocents.
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Now, how about addressing the assertion that you made, (which I asked you to prove),and you have not.
"EVERY Administration since Reagan has used private email servers and has deleted their more sensitive email correspondence"
Or is it your "opinion" just as the above and you have nothing to prove it.
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Again, do your own homework. The Bush Administration had a private email server and network set up by the RNC. And guess what.... they deleted over 20 MILLION emails. It's common practice. Do your homework.
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10-27-2016, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Aquila
I've been trying to explain this for years. If you want to truly reduce the number of abortions in this country you have to address the needs and the concerns of women. Those needs and concerns are healthcare, income, poverty, contraceptives, education, cost of daycare, and family leave. Only the Democrats address these issues adequately. And that is why abortion rates have tended to drop under Democrats.
So, if you want to reduce the abortion rate and truly save the unborn....vote Democratic. If you want more lip service, more empty promises, less healthcare, lower incomes, more poverty, less access to contraceptives, less education, the elimination of family leave, and higher abortion rates....vote Republican.
The truth is that both parties are prochoice. But only one party truly addresses the issues and concerns of women and will, as a result, reduce the abortion rate.... the Democrats.
So, if you want progressive policies that reduce the abortion rate, vote Clinton. If you want more empty promises and higher abortion rates, vote Trump.
This isn't about prolife verses prochoice, because BOTH parties are prochoice in practice. This is about higher abortion rates vs. lower abortion rates. The Republicans are lying to you. Don't fall for Satan's bait and switch scheme. The lives of the unborn are depending upon you.
Hillary Clinton Is the Best Choice for Voters Against Abortion: http://m.christianpost.com/news/hill...on-170258/?m=1
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This is the height of perversion. Talk about calling evil good and good evil. Vote for the woman who just defended full term abortion to the day of birth in a national presidential debate and said she's proud to stand in support of planned parenthood, who not only kills babies, but lets make it plain, inflicts upon them the most ruthless torture, that could make Hitler and ISIS blush, chopping them up alive then selling their organs.
And a "christian" says "vote for Hillary yo save the unborn". Thats among the most twisted immoral statements on any subject, that I've ever read.
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10-27-2016, 03:05 PM
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Re: Clinton Is the Best Choice For the Unborn:
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This is the height of perversion. Talk about calling evil good and good evil. Vote for the woman who just defended full term abortion to the day of birth in a national presidential debate and said she's proud to stand in support of planned parenthood, who not only kills babies, but lets make it plain, inflicts upon them the most ruthless torture, that could make Hitler and ISIS blush, chopping them up alive then selling their organs.
And a "christian" says "vote for Hillary yo save the unborn". Thats among the most twisted immoral statements on any subject, that I've ever read.
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The Republicans want to repeal Obamacare. That will repeal the provision that prevents insurers from denying pregnant women coverage on the grounds that pregnancy is a "pre-existing condition". Now, the blood thirsty Republican churls will do this while professing that they are "prolife", a lie from the pit of Hell that smells like smoke. Guess what will happen as millions of women find themselves unable to qualify for health insurance for prenatal care and delivery costs??? Any idiot can tell you that vast numbers of those women will opt for a $200 abortion.
No little girl says, "Mommy, I wanna have an abortion when I grow up." Women chose abortion when they feel desperate and when society isn't addressing the issues they face.
The Republicans will profess to be prolife all day long to get your vote.... but after being elected they spend their time smoking rich cigars soaked in the blood of children, as the laugh at how easy it is to manipulate religious voters.
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