Apostolic Friends Forum
Tab Menu 1
Go Back   Apostolic Friends Forum > The Fellowship Hall > Fellowship Hall
Facebook

Notices

Fellowship Hall The place to go for Fellowship & Fun!


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 06-22-2015, 11:57 PM
Esaias's Avatar
Esaias Esaias is offline
Unvaxxed Pureblood


 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Zion aka TEXAS
Posts: 26,758
Effective evangelists?

Who are some proven effective apostolic evangelists of our day?
__________________
Visit the Apostolic House Church YouTube Channel!


Biblical Worship - free pdf http://www.pdf-archive.com/2016/02/21/biblicalworship4/

Conditional immortality proven - https://ia800502.us.archive.org/3/it...surrection.pdf

Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 06-23-2015, 12:09 AM
Sean Sean is offline
Banned


 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 23,543
Re: Effective evangelists?

Billy Cole said at our men's retreat, years ago, that the REAL Biblical evangelists today are those that go into homes and convert sinners to the truth.(not the ones that go from church to church for pay)
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 06-23-2015, 01:36 AM
n david n david is offline
Registered Member


 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 17,807
Re: Effective evangelists?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean View Post
Billy Cole said at our men's retreat, years ago, that the REAL Biblical evangelists today are those that go into homes and convert sinners to the truth.(not the ones that go from church to church for pay)
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 06-23-2015, 06:41 AM
good samaritan's Avatar
good samaritan good samaritan is offline
Registered Member


 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 2,710
Re: Effective evangelists?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean View Post
Billy Cole said at our men's retreat, years ago, that the REAL Biblical evangelists today are those that go into homes and convert sinners to the truth.(not the ones that go from church to church for pay)
I agree with this statement for the most part, but we shut down a lot of things by pastors making statements like this behind the pulpit. Years ago churches would hold revivals for 4-6 weeks straight. My grandma was won during a brush harbor revival. The pastor would host the evangelist in his home and feed them on their own table. They couldn't give much, but they did what they could. Money wasn't an issue.

Today people are all about money, and suddenly it becomes wrong for evangelists to receive any wages. We have discredited evangelists as hirelings, but pastors think they should receive wages? We should continue to honor those who labor in the gospel. That doesn't mean that people should preach for money, but it means that people should have enough love in their heart that they want to do anything they can to see the gospel go forward.

There are many evangelists out there doing a work for God and they don't have the big names that we have heard. I don't want to tear down others for something that God has possibly called them to do. I am going be careful about broadbrushing everyone in a ministry that God has established. Sure there are hirelings out there but that doesn't mean evangelists are in it for money. I mean no disrespect, but Bro. Cole probably was compensated for his labors as well. I hate to hear it when people tear one another down.

I personally believe it would be good that a church can grow its paid staff and not just continue to increase a pastor's salary. So teachers and others in the church could focus more of their energies on the ministry. We need to recognize all the ministries and not just recognize the one.

Last edited by good samaritan; 06-23-2015 at 06:43 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 06-23-2015, 02:27 PM
Sean Sean is offline
Banned


 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 23,543
Re: Effective evangelists?

Quote:
Originally Posted by good samaritan View Post
I agree with this statement for the most part, but we shut down a lot of things by pastors making statements like this behind the pulpit. Years ago churches would hold revivals for 4-6 weeks straight. My grandma was won during a brush harbor revival. The pastor would host the evangelist in his home and feed them on their own table. They couldn't give much, but they did what they could. Money wasn't an issue.

Today people are all about money, and suddenly it becomes wrong for evangelists to receive any wages. We have discredited evangelists as hirelings, but pastors think they should receive wages? We should continue to honor those who labor in the gospel. That doesn't mean that people should preach for money, but it means that people should have enough love in their heart that they want to do anything they can to see the gospel go forward.

There are many evangelists out there doing a work for God and they don't have the big names that we have heard. I don't want to tear down others for something that God has possibly called them to do. I am going be careful about broadbrushing everyone in a ministry that God has established. Sure there are hirelings out there but that doesn't mean evangelists are in it for money. I mean no disrespect, but Bro. Cole probably was compensated for his labors as well. I hate to hear it when people tear one another down.

I personally believe it would be good that a church can grow its paid staff and not just continue to increase a pastor's salary. So teachers and others in the church could focus more of their energies on the ministry. We need to recognize all the ministries and not just recognize the one.



G.S.....My point is that the "ORIGINAL" 1st century evangelist was to sinners, not saints.

It works also to have modern "traveling preachers" edify the church and preach to visitors.

But the original evangelist is to go straight to sinners and teach/win them, as a lifestyle.....free of charge, just ask Paul.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 06-23-2015, 02:41 PM
good samaritan's Avatar
good samaritan good samaritan is offline
Registered Member


 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 2,710
Re: Effective evangelists?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean View Post
G.S.....My point is that the "ORIGINAL" 1st century evangelist was to sinners, not saints.

It works also to have modern "traveling preachers" edify the church and preach to visitors.

But the original evangelist is to go straight to sinners and teach/win them, as a lifestyle.....free of charge, just ask Paul.
I think that Paul could be viewed as a traveling evangelist. He didn't get paid much (not materially). I think that this nation was began so people could have religious freedom. It later became a nation that revolves around dollars. Our nation has been know for the American dream, which to most is to be prosperous and make a lot of money. I believe that many in the church is being affected by the culture, but God will be judge to the hearts of all those who labor in his name.

I don't know anyone today as consecrated as those in the book of Acts.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 06-23-2015, 12:50 PM
ApostolicKitty's Avatar
ApostolicKitty ApostolicKitty is offline
Retired Ninja


 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 568
Re: Effective evangelists?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean View Post
Billy Cole said at our men's retreat, years ago, that the REAL Biblical evangelists today are those that go into homes and convert sinners to the truth.(not the ones that go from church to church for pay)

Yet I bet he receives pay for preaching the gospel himself.

Anyway... I do agree that true biblical evangelists are not those that necessarily go from church to church preaching. What I mean by that is that they do not preach inside a building, but go out to where the lost are to reach them and bring them into the fold. That can mean their homes, a shopping mall, brush arbors, or even coffee shops... but definitely not nice, cozy church buildings where the lost often don't darken the door, though I see no problem with them preaching there once they bring people in.

I don't think it's appropriate for them to set a price to preach, though I do believe they should be supported as they do this work. They have to eat, clothe themselves, and pay bills, too.

Just my opinion... and, unfortunately, I don't know of anyone who does such a thing... I know there are some. I don't know if they are effective. I'd like to think there are some out there that are.
__________________
Meow for now...


The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise. - Psalm 51:17

Jude 21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life. 22 And of some have compassion , making a difference : 23 And others save with fear, pulling [them] out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 06-23-2015, 01:50 PM
TK Burk's Avatar
TK Burk TK Burk is offline
Lamb Saved & Shepherd Led


 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 3,729
Re: Effective evangelists?

Bro. D.D. Benincasa is a true apostolic evangelist. Most days he's out in his city teaching Bible studies, winning souls and ministering to people's needs in Jesus' name.

Those who attend his Bible studies range from the homeless to millionaires. Since Fort Lauderdale is such a diverse city, many of these "students" are from different religions. I'm not talking just different "Christian" denominations (though there are many of those too), but different religious backgrounds such as: Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu, Rastafarian, New Age, and many others. He is a very studious man and not only shows these folks what the Bible says, but many times also shows them what their own religion teaches and how that differs from the truths of God. He is a true apologist.

Bro. Benincasa is faithful to live what he believes. He is fearless when speaking the truth, regardless of who is listening. He has a good reputation in his city and is known for his faith. For all the work he does, he refuses to take up an offering or ask for money. His faith is that God will make a way for the needed money to come, which He does. Bro. Benincasa has a burden for souls and shows it in the evangelistic work he is doing.
__________________
The Bible is open to those that want Truth, and if they want Truth, they find Truth. They watch individuals squabble over Bible symbolism on the Internet, and leave the Message boards to enter into the real world where live people dwell, and they find Truth. The World Wide Web is full of Internet Ayatollahs who speak their mind. There is only one Truth, and it is not hidden. No matter what anyone says, Truth still converts the sincere.
 -DD Benincasa, 12/06/03

www.tkburk.com

Last edited by TK Burk; 06-23-2015 at 01:54 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 06-23-2015, 01:02 PM
n david n david is offline
Registered Member


 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 17,807
Re: Effective evangelists?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean View Post
Billy Cole said at our men's retreat, years ago, that the REAL Biblical evangelists today are those that go into homes and convert sinners to the truth.(not the ones that go from church to church for pay)
Is the part in bold what Bro. Cole said, or is it something you added?
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 06-23-2015, 02:30 PM
Sean Sean is offline
Banned


 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 23,543
Re: Effective evangelists?

Quote:
Originally Posted by n david View Post
Is the part in bold what Bro. Cole said, or is it something you added?


I added that one.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Question for real evangelists Esaias Deep Waters 33 12-27-2015 08:59 AM
The Skewed Priorities of Some Modern Evangelists Charnock Fellowship Hall 48 09-27-2011 10:44 PM
Are Evangelists On The Wane ? Scott Hutchinson Fellowship Hall 31 02-19-2008 11:06 AM
Evangelists who have touched your life Hesetmefree238 Fellowship Hall 98 06-11-2007 01:04 PM
Evangelists other thoughts Steve Epley Deep Waters 76 03-19-2007 12:11 AM

 
User Infomation
Your Avatar

Latest Threads
- by Praxeas
- by Amanah

Help Support AFF!

Advertisement




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:38 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.