“Communism is based upon the granite foundation of materialism dedicated to the liquidation of religion. Communism leaves no room for religion.” The Lexicon of Atheism. Moscow, 1959
“Marxism is materialism. As such it is with out mercy for religion. Every religious idea, every idea of God, even flirting with the idea of God is unutterable vileness.” Vladimir Lenin
“Let us drive out the capitalists from earth and God from heaven.” Soviet Slogan
“Our enemy is God. Hatred of God is the beginning of Wisdom.” The Philosophy of Communism, Fordham, 1952
“In this revolution we will have to awaken the devil in the people, to stir up the basest passions.” Dzerjinskii, Paris, 1936
“We do not tight against believers and not even against clergymen. We fight against God to snatch believers from Him.” Moscow Newspaper, 1975
“The soundest strategy in war is to post pone final military operations until the moral degeneration of the enemy renders the mortal blow both possible and easy.” Karl Marx
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too bad Jesus and the early Chrisitan church were the original comunists, huh??
Ignorant comment...
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Jesus was a proponent of more communist ideology than anyone else in the history of the world until Marx...
The early church ACTUALLY LIVED communist lives, sharing everything they had (or did you skip that verse)???
I realize in modern America communism = evil, but the fact of the matter is that socialism/communism is the IDEAL way to live, the only problem is it is essentially impossible to actually pull off since people are evil....
but Jesus proposed many communistic things and the early church, from what we know about them, had what is the closest to socialistic society in the history of the world...
You are misrepresenting the meaning of governmental communism.
Jesus did not advocate, preach or practice a political government where all economic and social activity is controlled by a totalitarian state dominated by a self-perpetuating political party.
I will agree with you that the early church did display voluntary collectivist principles, but they did not practice communism.
__________________ For you, brethren, have been called to liberty; only do not use liberty as an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another. For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this: "You shall love your neighbor as yourself." But if you bite and devour one another, beware lest you be consumed by one another! (Gal 5:13-15/ NKJV)
You are misrepresenting the meaning of governmental communism.
Jesus did not advocate, preach or practice a political government where all economic and social activity is controlled by a totalitarian state dominated by a self-perpetuating political party.
I will agree with you that the early church did display voluntary collectivist principles, but they did not practice communism.
that is what it turned into, that wasn't what was attempted at happening...
What they attempted to do was create a socialistic state... It didn't work, but the ideals are still the ame...
Yes, there are bad things about communism, but the fact is it was just people trying to have the same exact ideals that Jesus espoused (taht being socialistic ones)...
Stop listening to the lame propoganda that all communism/socialism is bad... It isn't... Its just people trying to reach an ideal where everyone has all thier needs met and no one is in poverty... did it work? No... But that's because they didn't FOLLOW THROUGH on waht the initial plan was, not because the initial plan was flawed...
You are misrepresenting the meaning of governmental communism.
Jesus did not advocate, preach or practice a political government where all economic and social activity is controlled by a totalitarian state dominated by a self-perpetuating political party.
I will agree with you that the early church did display voluntary collectivist principles, but they did not practice communism.
uhm, the evidence suggests, the church in Jerusalem practiced communal living. there is no evidence this practice was exported with the Gospel.
We also find in scripture that eventually the Jerusalem church....the First Church, fell to such poverty that Paul took up a collection from the brothers in Asia Minor to take to them to save them .
Even in Scripture communism was a failure.
And NEVER did Jesus suggest comunsit ideals. He never advocated that all people live communally. What he espoused was that those with the means take care of those who were down trodden.
He espoused the idea that ministers should trust God and not material wealth for their sustanance
He NEVER taught any principle of Marxism, Communism, or even communal living.
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that is what it turned into, that wasn't what was attempted at happening...
What they attempted to do was create a socialistic state... It didn't work, but the ideals are still the ame...
Yes, there are bad things about communism, but the fact is it was just people trying to have the same exact ideals that Jesus espoused (taht being socialistic ones)...
Stop listening to the lame propoganda that all communism/socialism is bad... It isn't... Its just people trying to reach an ideal where everyone has all thier needs met and no one is in poverty... did it work? No... But that's because they didn't FOLLOW THROUGH on waht the initial plan was, not because the initial plan was flawed...
one more point. ALL communism/socialism is not only bad but anti-thetical and evil and distructive to both humanity and to the spiritual health of mankind.
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redeemedcynic84 has some real problems that need to be dealt with...
Anyone that has half a brain and any knowledge at all of communism KNOWS it is one of the world´s most cruel systems.
I Personally have listened to hours personal testimonies of people that were years in communist prisions and their only crime was being a christian.
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