What are your thoughts on Esther 1?

[good samaritan]

I will posts some thoughts on Esther 1 later, but I didn’t know if anyone else has seen any types and shadows that they would share?

[Tithesmeister]

I don’t believe that there are any types and shadows. Instead, I see a human tendency to be manipulated by women. Look at Samson and other examples in the Bible (half the kingdom for the head of John the Baptist on a charger?). It just proves the men are vulnerable to the charms of women, which is a good thing. It also proves that it is not new. Also that SOME women are conniving and spiteful and vindictive. It has always been that way and will continue to be so.

Types and shadows? No. Just human nature.

[good samaritan]

Ahaserus (King) petitions Vashti (gentile queen/bride) to come. She refuses to come so he gives her estate to another.

God gives a bill of divorce to Israel and receives a gentile bride.

Romans 11 Paul warns the (gentiles bride) not to boast against the branches, or they would too be cut off (divorced).

Romans 11:25
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

[Esaias]

Ahaseurus was a gentile.

[good samaritan]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Ahaseurus was a gentile.

Yes, you are correct. Just some thoughts while hearing someone preach from this text over the weekend.

There where Seven chamberlains mentioned by name sent to call her, but she refused them. I believe this took place during a seven day feast for small and great that where present in the palace, that followed a 180 day feast for the princes and nobles of Persia. Certainly eisegesis, but could this seven day feast to those in the palace been beneath Vashti?

[TGBTG]

Originally Posted by good samaritan

Ahaserus (King) petitions Vashti (gentile queen/bride) to come. She refuses to come so he gives her estate to another.

God gives a bill of divorce to Israel and receives a gentile bride.

Romans 11 Paul warns the (gentiles bride) not to boast against the branches, or they would too be cut off (divorced).

Romans 11:25
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

Uhmmm..there’s nothing like a gentile bride. Jew and gentile make up the bride

[diakonos]

Originally Posted by TGBTG

Uhmmm..there’s nothing like a gentile bride. Jew and gentile make up the bride

Yep

[good samaritan]

There are Jews in the bride

Romans 11:5
Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by good samaritan

Ahaserus (King) petitions Vashti (gentile queen/bride) to come. She refuses to come so he gives her estate to another.

God gives a bill of divorce to Israel and receives a gentile bride.

Romans 11 Paul warns the (gentiles bride) not to boast against the branches, or they would too be cut off (divorced).

Romans 11:25
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

The church is not a gentile bride. I believe you're on the right track, but go slightly askew with thoughts of a Gentile Bride. That concept is not biblical. That is a dispensational creation. Paul said in Ephesians 2 that the Church is both Jew and Gentile together in one body by the cross. Think of the bride more like New Covenant Jew and Gentile, not just Gentile by any means. God divorced Israel under the Old Covenant, which was natural and unregenerate Israel.

Paul said that the gentiles were aliens from the COMMONWEALTH of Israel. COMMONWEALTH literally means CITIZENSHIP. But after the cross, the saved Gentiles became FELLOW CITIZENS. So, if commonwealth means citizenship, and we are fellow citizens with the saints, then were are in the COMMONWEALTH of Israel if we are saved, and that is what Paul called the NEW COVENANT CHURCH. The idea of a Gentile bride ought to be furthers from our understanding, in truth.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by good samaritan

There are Jews in the bride

Romans 11:5
Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

The BRIDE is Gentile and Jew in one body. There is nothing else of the Jew except the church!

Ephesians 2:11-16
(11).. Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
(12).. That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
(13).. But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
(14).. For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
(15).. Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
(16).. And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby: