Why do we use trinitarian..........

jwharv · #1 06-27-2007, 12:15 AM

It is made clear daily that many around here believe all trinitarians are lost. I have always wondered how people reconcile the fact that they truely believe all trinitarians are lost when so much from trinitarians are used in Apostolic churches.

Why are the majority of songs in the song book written by trinitarians? Why do many sunday school books put out by Apostolic groups contain many teachings from trinitarians? If one truely believes these people are lost how do we reconcile the use of so much from them in Apostolic churches?

I remember when I use to teach the teen class we would get books for the teachers to read along with the Sunday School material and the books were always written by trinitarians. So I guess my real question is simply why do we use so many things written by "lost" people in the Apostolic church?

Praxeas · #2 06-27-2007, 01:44 AM

All I know is...some cavemen are nice gentlemen and they wear clothes

Praxeas · #3 06-27-2007, 01:45 AM

Could that be....a Trinitarian hanging from the cavemans shoulders???

Which reminds me, I just got back from the store and they had frozen rabbit for sale...kinda of a rarity here in So Cal

tv1a · #4 06-27-2007, 04:23 AM

I'm on the Pentecostal Publishing House mailing list. I discovered a few years after a truth is introduced by a ''trinitarian'' a ''oneness'' version comes out. Battlefield of the Mind was assulted becuase the Author was Joyce Meyer. Years later a oneness person puts out he same thing on audio cd, and it is promoted on PPH... It's an obvious attempt at imitation because the speaker is a woman. The next e-mail solicitation I got PPH was promoting a book about the Jezebel spirit that had NOTHING to do with makeup. Trinitarians knew that stuff for years.

Cult-minded Oneness people have a difficult time accepting truth is not based on a denomination. Truths are absolutes. Truth transcends denominations. I don't know why it is a challenge to accept the Oneness movemennt does not hold a monopoly on truth.

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Originally Posted by jwharv

It is made clear daily that many around here believe all trinitarians are lost. I have always wondered how people reconcile the fact that they truely believe all trinitarians are lost when so much from trinitarians are used in Apostolic churches.

Why are the majority of songs in the song book written by trinitarians? Why do many sunday school books put out by Apostolic groups contain many teachings from trinitarians? If one truely believes these people are lost how do we reconcile the use of so much from them in Apostolic churches?

I remember when I use to teach the teen class we would get books for the teachers to read along with the Sunday School material and the books were always written by trinitarians. So I guess my real question is simply why do we use so many things written by "lost" people in the Apostolic church?

Brother Price · #5 06-27-2007, 05:54 AM

Well, I am somewhat surprised by this thread, but not shocked. Let me say this. When it comes to songs, I know of several trinitarian song writers who are still lost as a blind man in a new town. They can write some good songs with their talent, and still be lost.

As for authors, forget it. If a man cannot get the truth of God straight and cannot get salvation straight, how can he be straight in the deeper issues of doctrine? Yes, trinitarians are still lost. Yes, they still need to reject their pagan doctrines and come to the truth. They still need to come to Jesus by grace through faith according to Acts 2:38.

sola gratia · #6 06-27-2007, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Brother Price

Well, I am somewhat surprised by this thread, but not shocked. Let me say this. When it comes to songs, I know of several trinitarian song writers who are still lost as a blind man in a new town. They can write some good songs with their talent, and still be lost.

As for authors, forget it. If a man cannot get the truth of God straight and cannot get salvation straight, how can he be straight in the deeper issues of doctrine? Yes, trinitarians are still lost. Yes, they still need to reject their pagan doctrines and come to the truth. They still need to come to Jesus by grace through faith according to Acts 2:38.

What a load.

To bad you dont have a clue

Brother Price · #7 06-27-2007, 08:00 AM

So says you. Too bad. I guess that truth can be relative to some, absolute to others.

#8 06-27-2007, 08:08 AM

I'm so glad all those oneness pentecostals were around to protect the bible throughout the ages while the trinitarians were translating it and stuff. lol.

Jack Shephard · #9 06-27-2007, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Brother Price

Well, I am somewhat surprised by this thread, but not shocked. Let me say this. When it comes to songs, I know of several trinitarian song writers who are still lost as a blind man in a new town. They can write some good songs with their talent, and still be lost.

As for authors, forget it. If a man cannot get the truth of God straight and cannot get salvation straight, how can he be straight in the deeper issues of doctrine? Yes, trinitarians are still lost. Yes, they still need to reject their pagan doctrines and come to the truth. They still need to come to Jesus by grace through faith according to Acts 2:38.

UMMMMMMMM

WHAT!?!?!?!?

BP, you are an intersting person. There is not Biblical truth that Trinitarians go to hell. To say that they are you are trying to step into God's shoes. No one can ........ anyone nor forgive anyones sins. Only God and God alone! BP, for you seeming to be very spiritual you should know that. I can tell you I have learn alot if not more things from what you can classify as a Trinitarian author that I have oneness ones. The down side to the oneness authors is that they feel an abligation to talk only about oneness and not more important issues, marriage, drug abuse, etc.

I have read several books by oneness authors and they are good, but most of the insight is the same merry-go-round you hear in service, One God, Jesus only yada, yada, yada. If were skilled enough to write a good book then I would, but I can't. But you should read Jentezen Franklin's new book. It is good. TF Tenney is one of his friends and JF is classifed as a Trinitarian. Branch out BP, you might learn something.

sola gratia · #10 06-27-2007, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Brother Price

So says you. Too bad. I guess that truth can be relative to some, absolute to others.

You know Price, you have very little to say that is valid. schooled or legitimate. Truth is relative to some? What a joke... your concept of absolute concrete truth is more fluid than anyone I have ever known.

I know the truth and it has set me free. Many believe oneness and trinitarians will be in heaven.... Because faith in Jesus Christ is what saves.. not onews personal persuasion in the Godhead... which is a VERY difficult subject of study.... there is alot more than your two or three pet verses

I'd watch what measure of judgement I use if I where you... it may come back on you