Digging! Did you get your letter from Ron?

Pressing-On · #1 06-21-2007, 07:29 AM

I got mine yesterday. This wonderful "nut case" (lol) has some excellent views on Illegal Immigration. Bush needs to talk to him.

Here is the letter,

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With the recent news from Washington focusing on the issue of illegal immigration, I want to inform you of my actions regarding this important policy issue.

I have always been opposed to amnesty for illegal immigrants, and I will vote against the so-called compromise bill that would allow all people in this country illegally to suddenly gain legal status with the stroke of a pen.

Instead of giving people new incentives to come to this country illegally, I believe we should take away existing incentives, such as taxpayer-sponsored benefits, and automatic citizenship for the children of illegals.

Because my approach is to end these incentives, I have once again taken the lead and introduced legislation that would stop so-called "birthright citizenship" for the children of illegals.

Believe it or not, when an illegal immigrant has a child in our country that child now automatically becomes a US citizen. I believe we should stop this.

These children then become so-called "anchor babies" because they are used to help get legal status for the members of their family who are in the US illegally. My legislation would stop this abuse from continuing.

And, in addition to halting amnesty for illegals, I am also fighting to secure our borders to stem the flow of illegals, gangs and drug dealers and to also help prevent terrorists from entering our country.

If you have questions regarding my approach to the issue of illegal immigration, do not hesitate to contact my Legislative Assistant, Daniel McAdams, at 202-226-8259. In the mean time, in addition to halting amnesty for illegals, I will continue to keep you informed regarding my fight to secure our borders and keep our country safe.

Cordially,
Ron Paul

I like this for an answer to illegal immigration. It stops a whole myriad of problems to begin with.

Digging4Truth · #2 06-21-2007, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I got mine yesterday. This wonderful "nut case" (lol) has some excellent views on Illegal Immigration. Bush needs to talk to him.

Here is the letter,

I like this for an answer to illegal immigration. It stops a whole myriad of problems to begin with.

Ron Paul... The man with a real plan.

#3 06-21-2007, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I got mine yesterday. This wonderful "nut case" (lol) has some excellent views on Illegal Immigration. Bush needs to talk to him.

Here is the letter,

I like this for an answer to illegal immigration. It stops a whole myriad of problems to begin with.

Unfortunately, the only way he can change the "birthright citizenship" is to amend the 14th amendment which defines citizens, in part, as anyone who is born in the United States. Otherwise, I'm with Ron Paul on this.

Pressing-On · #4 06-21-2007, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

Ron Paul... The man with a real plan.

I do like how he lines out his ideas more plainly.

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Originally Posted by Chan

Unfortunately, the only way he can change the "birthright citizenship" is to amend the 14th amendment which defines citizens, in part, as anyone who is born in the United States. Otherwise, I'm with Ron Paul on this.

Right. I don't know what he's drawing up to get around that. The whole thing seems impossible.

Pressing-On · #5 06-21-2007, 08:38 PM

Just wondering if there could be found a loophole here.

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Article XIV

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

If the child is a minor, can he/she be considered, "subject to the jurisdication thereof."? If the parents are illegal and the legal guardian of the said child are they subject to our jurisdiction?

I'll call Ron Paul's office next week and see what he is proposing.

#6 06-22-2007, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Just wondering if there could be found a loophole here.

If the child is a minor, can he/she be considered, "subject to the jurisdication thereof."? If the parents are illegal and the legal guardian of the said child are they subject to our jurisdiction?

I'll call Ron Paul's office next week and see what he is proposing.

If the child is not subject to our jurisdiction then when they commit crimes then how can he or she be tried in American courts for committing crimes in America? I don't think it has to do with the status of the parents.

Pressing-On · #7 06-22-2007, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Chan

If the child is not subject to our jurisdiction then when they commit crimes then how can he or she be tried in American courts for committing crimes in America? I don't think it has to do with the status of the parents.

LOL! Guess I wasn't thinking that far - from the cradle to the grave.

Thanks, Chancellor. I haven't found any way around the 14th Amendment. I'm still going to check with Ron Paul on that and see what they are proposing. I'll post what I find out.

#8 06-24-2007, 03:29 PM

I got my letter

Pressing-On · #9 06-24-2007, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Titus2Mom

I got my letter

I'll let you know what he says about bypassing the Fourteenth Amendment. Or rather, how is he going to bypass that! lol

Pressing-On · #10 06-25-2007, 08:44 AM

I just got off the phone with Ron Paul's legal assistant, Daniel McAdams.

They are proposing an Amendment to the Constitution which will define who is allowed to be an American Citizen.

Below is H.J. Res. 426

Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to deny United States citizenship to individuals born in the United States to parents who are neither United States citizens... (Introduced in House)

HJ 46 IH

110th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. J. RES. 46

Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to deny United States citizenship to individuals born in the United States to parents who are neither United States citizens nor persons who owe permanent allegiance to the United States.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

June 13, 2007

Mr. PAUL (for himself, Mr. GOODE, Mr. DEAL of Georgia, and Mr. AKIN) introduced the following joint resolution; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary

JOINT RESOLUTION

Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to deny United States citizenship to individuals born in the United States to parents who are neither United States citizens nor persons who owe permanent allegiance to the United States.

Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That the following article is proposed as an amendment to the Constitution of the United States, which shall be valid to all intents and purposes as part of the Constitution when ratified by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years after the date of its submission for ratification:

`Article --

`Section 1. Any person born after the date of the ratification of this article to a mother and father, neither of whom is a citizen of the United States nor a person who owes permanent allegiance to the United States, shall not be a citizen of the United States or of any State solely by reason of birth in the United States.

`Section 2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.'.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/thomas