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Old 04-25-2017, 10:07 AM
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Libs are against free speech

This is my issue with "hate speech".
Libs and their children are now using it as a justification to shut down free speech.
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Yesterday on Twitter, Dean claimed Coulter-style rhetoric "is NOT protected speech under the first amendment" because it amounts to "fighting words."
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Old 04-25-2017, 10:40 AM
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Re: Libs are against free speech

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This is my issue with "hate speech".
Libs and their children are now using it as a justification to shut down free speech.
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Yesterday on Twitter, Dean claimed Coulter-style rhetoric "is NOT protected speech under the first amendment" because it amounts to "fighting words."
Hypocrite. I don't remember Dean or any others condemning obama for saying "If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun."
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Old 04-26-2017, 08:35 AM
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Re: Libs are against free speech

Liberals need to chill and allow free speech. Frankly, if you give a conservative enough rope, they'll eventually hang themselves anyway. lol
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Old 04-27-2017, 09:33 AM
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Re: Libs are against free speech

A - the libs now want to supply the rope and do the hanging.

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The email said that 200 people would “rush into the parade” and “drag and push” those marching with the Republican Party.
“We will not give one inch to groups who espouse hatred toward LGBT, immigrants, people of color or others,” it said.
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Old 04-27-2017, 10:45 AM
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Re: Libs are against free speech

This is a powderkeg ready to explode. People are going get killed at one of these protests.

I will predict it will be a Trump supporter who will die first, at the hands of a cowardly, liberal antifa who will attack from behind and then run away into the crowd.

I've seen several videos already of these antifa cowards, using the crowd to sneak up and hit Trump supporters in the back of the head with bats and bike locks.

Once this happens, all hell will break loose and Trump supporters will have no mercy.

The antifa-supporting Mayor of Berkeley better let the police do their job and tell his friends to calm down.
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Old 04-27-2017, 12:56 PM
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This is a powderkeg ready to explode. People are going get killed at one of these protests.

I will predict it will be a Trump supporter who will die first, at the hands of a cowardly, liberal antifa who will attack from behind and then run away into the crowd.

I've seen several videos already of these antifa cowards, using the crowd to sneak up and hit Trump supporters in the back of the head with bats and bike locks.

Once this happens, all hell will break loose and Trump supporters will have no mercy.

The antifa-supporting Mayor of Berkeley better let the police do their job and tell his friends to calm down.
Personally, I think this is a fascist regime. And yes, I do believe the Republicans are perhaps one of the most dangerous groups in the United States. I do think they should be opposed at every juncture.

When I say this, I'm essentially agreeing with Noam Chomsky, who said:
If we were honest, we would say something that sounds utterly shocking and no doubt will be taken out of context and lead to hysteria on the part of the usual suspects, but the fact of the matter is that today’s Republican Party qualify as candidates for the most dangerous organization in human history. Literally.
To clarify the statement Noam Chomsky said:
I also said that it’s an extremely outrageous statement. But the question is whether it’s true. I mean, has there ever been an organization in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organized human life on Earth? Not that I’m aware of. Is the Republican organization—I hesitate to call it a party—committed to that? Overwhelmingly. There isn’t even any question about it.

Take a look at the last primary campaign—plenty of publicity, very little comment on the most significant fact. Every single candidate either denied that what is happening is happening—namely, serious move towards environmental catastrophe—or there were a couple of moderates, so-called—Jeb Bush, who said, "Maybe it’s happening. We really don’t know. But it doesn’t matter, because fracking is working fine, so we can get more fossil fuels." Then there was the guy who was called the adult in the room, John Kasich, the one person who said, "Yes, it’s true. Global warming’s going on. But it doesn’t matter." He’s the governor of Ohio. "In Ohio, we’re going to go on using coal for energy, and we’re not going to apologize for it." So that’s 100 percent commitment to racing towards disaster.
Here's a video where he discusses this critique of the Republican Party:


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Old 04-27-2017, 01:15 PM
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Delusional.

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Old 04-27-2017, 01:22 PM
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Delusional.

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No, delusional is when a study shows rising sea levels and how devastating a 1 meter rise in sea level would be for the citizens of North Carolina... and the Republican state legislature's response is to pass legislation to make it illegal to even discuss or debate the issue of climate change in the state house. That's delusional. It is insane. It is a deliberate and open hostility towards the concern for the lives and well being of North Carolina's citizens.

Why pass a law prohibiting free speech, discussion, and debate on climate change in the state house... if it isn't real? You don't pass laws against flying reindeer. They are trying to silence the discussion, the open display of facts, and the obvious reality that they have been denying and misinforming voters about climate change since the beginning. It will only expose them for the devils that they are.

If the Republican Party has its way... and the environment does begin to unravel at the seams with freak storms, rising sea levels, drought, famine, and masses of climate refugees... anyone who has ever identified as Republican will be seen with an indignation equal to, or perhaps even greater than, that seen against Hitler's Nazi Party.

Because of this and other very real, and deathly serious issues, that the Republican Party is deliberately ignoring... the day will come when the word "Republican" is only whispered in private for fear of open public rebuke, revolt, and upheaval.

Every fear of fascism that conservatives have regarding the pansies of the Democratic Party... is actually manifest and realized in the Republican Party. It is perhaps presently the most dangerous organization on earth.

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Old 04-27-2017, 01:50 PM
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While most are all caught up in the point/counter point debate, like all this is just an afternoon tennis match... the truth is that creation care isn't about global warming. It is about loving God and loving others. One cannot claim to reverence and love the creator without having reverence and love for His creation.

If the Republicans are right... and the environment is just fine and we have no worries in the world... it still makes conservative sense to PREVENT a crisis by making progress on environmental issues.

What is their logic? Is their philosophy that, since it is all an elaborate hoax, we shouldn't worry about the environment until it is indeed an undeniable global crisis???

That's not just reckless, it's stupid. Void of wisdom and/or foresight. Now, with this position, regardless as to if they are right or wrong... they are marching us headlong into a environmental disaster. A disaster that will cost far more to clean up than to prevent. A disaster that could endanger hundreds of millions of lives. A disaster that could even lead to a series of events that could end human civilization as we know it.

It's time that we declare a simple truth. If you love the Creator, you'll care for the creation.
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Old 04-27-2017, 02:12 PM
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Re: Libs are against free speech

It's so rich that you, a liberal who associates with the pro-abortion, anti 2A, anti 1A Democrat Party, would claim the GOP is fascist and one of the biggest threats.

You have antifa who are threatening violence against GOP for doing nothing more than marching in a community parade. Antifa who have acted violently, set fires, caused millions in property damage and even used large bike locks and bats and other weapons to protest conservative speakers.

You have liberal universities blocking conservative speakers from speaking on campus to student groups who invited them.

And you want to whine about fake news about NC allegedly banning speech in support of climate change.

Man, please.

And BTW, let's have some FACT about your claim.

1) This "ban" against using the sea data was a bill from back in 2012, and did NOT ban climate change speech.
2) The DEMOCRAT Governor allowed it to become law.

"A new law in North Carolina will ban the state from basing coastal policies on the latest scientific predictions of how much the sea level will rise, prompting environmentalists to accuse the state of disrespecting climate science."

"The law was drafted in response to an estimate by the state's Coastal Resources Commission (CRC) that the sea level will rise by 39 inches in the next century, prompting fears of costlier home insurance and accusations of anti-development alarmism among residents and developers in the state's coastal Outer Banks region.

Democratic Gov. Bev Perdue had until Thursday to act on the bill known as House Bill 819, but she decided to let it become law by doing nothing."
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Don't whine about this when a member of your own party refused to stop it!

There's a current bill in NC which "would prohibit discrimination against a person based on their beliefs about climate change." The bill is “An Act To Protect Political Speech and Prevent Climate Change Policy Profiling."

This bill protects EVERYONE from discrimination against a person based on their climate change beliefs.
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Your claim is false.

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