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Old 04-11-2016, 11:55 PM
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"""Ted Cruz Isn't Cheating, He's Winning"""

"""Now, what happened in Colorado is, I'm sorry to say, it's not a trick. What happened in Colorado is right out in the open. Everybody's known how Colorado runs its affairs. Everybody has known. Nobody just chose to look at it. It's no secret that Colorado was gonna have a convention and they're gonna choose their delegates before the primary. It's not a secret. It's just nobody leaked it. Nobody talked about it. Nobody bragged about it. So it was left to be discovered by people who didn't know. And it turns out that people on the Trump campaign didn't know."""

"""I don't see Ted Cruz lying and cheating his way to the convention. I see a lot of hard work. I see some people who know what they have to do, given where they are. They're in second place in both the vote count and the delegate count. They're serious about winning. The Cruz team is serious about winning. They have made themselves fully aware of how the process works, and they've been out working it for quite a while."""

"""You know, being an outsider, it has benefits, but it has drawbacks, too, and knowing the rules inside out and outworking the competition is not cheating. If you happen to be more knowledgeable of how things work and are able to work it to your advantage, that's just hard work. That isn't cheating."""

"""everybody knew what Colorado did. They changed their procedure. They changed it in August. Everybody knew This did not sneak up on anybody. What happened was the Colorado Republican Party canceled the party's presidential straw poll in August, purposely and specifically to avoid binding its delegates to a candidate who might not survive until the convention in July. So they purposely did this."""

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/20...g_he_s_winning

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Old 04-12-2016, 05:36 AM
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Re: Limbaugh: Ted Cruz is Winning

The part you left out....

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Now, they probably did it because of Trump. I have no doubt that they made this switch because of Trump. But they didn't do it last night or Friday night. They did it back in August
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Old 04-12-2016, 08:06 AM
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The part you left out....
It's mentioned at the very end, and there's a link you can read the full article.

I also left out, """That's true about Crazy Bernie. They have rigged it over to the Democrat side. They're using their superdelegates."""

Why? It's not what the message was about.

The message wasn't about Bernie or the CO purposefully changing the process (back in August), it was about the lie Trump and his supporters are claiming; that Cruz cheated and stole the delegates and the vast establishment conspiracy disenfranchised voters.

Cruz learned the process, had people in place, personally visited the convention and earned the delegates he won.

Trump blew it. Gave little money or support, had internal staff issues which led to the CO manager for Trump being replaced days before the convention, and Trump snubbed the convention to stay in his safe space in NY.

As noted by a Senator from CO:

@CoryGardner: Spoke to dozens of Trump supporters this weekend, listened to his surrogate speak twice, not 1 person complained abt process until he lost.

@CoryGardner: .@tedcruz showed up to the @cologop convention. @realDonaldTrump only sent a surrogate. Cruz swept. Elections are won by those who show up.

@CoryGardner: I've attended CO GOP conventions for years. It requires organization & attn to grassroots to win. Cruz had it. Trump didn't. End of story.

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Old 04-12-2016, 10:31 AM
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Re: Limbaugh: Ted Cruz is Winning

On the same show Rush also said....


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Trump is the vehicle for victory overwhelming, overcoming the establishment, what happens if Trump doesn't win? The establishment holds on. If Trump doesn't win, no matter what. If the Trumpists represent one half of the voters of the Republican Party, and then if every one of them stops voting Republican, that is not gonna end the Republican establishment.

And, furthermore, the Republican establishment won't care. That's the problem. They won't care. As long as they hold on to their fiefdom, as long as there is a Republican Party, and as long as the people who run it continue to run it, then beating back this latest insurgency, they will consider to be a victory. Not whether they win the White House or not. Their first order of business right now is to beat back the insurgency, the rabble-rousers, the peasants with the pitchforks.

That's their first objective right now. And if they have to roll up their sleeves and work with Ted Cruz for a couple of months to do it, they'll do it. But then Cruz is gonna be their next target. (interruption) Don't doubt me. (interruption) Don't shake your heads in there. Don't doubt me on this. These are people hanging on for dear life. These are people in a car that has gone over the cliff; it's sinking to the bottom of the lake. They're struggling to get the windows open and swim out of that car, and they're gonna do everything they can to live.

They're not gonna allow Trump to push that car over the cliff with the doors and windows locked, or Cruz, for that matter. So my only point is this: If Trump, as a candidate, ends up being defeated, and if he doesn't get to 1,237, do you see him winning on a second or third ballot, given what you've seen happen this weekend? Well, some people don't, but even though you've gotta realize something. If everybody's out there buying delegates, don't forget Trump has Mar-a-Lago.

I mean, if you're gonna wine and dine delegates, Trump's got Trump Force One. I mean, Trump's... There you go once again: Insulting delegates, thinking they can be bought off with... (interruption) Well, can I give you some names? (chuckling) No, folks, I'm just kidding. Look, the anti-establishment movement is real. It's a lot of people. But if it doesn't succeed in making great, great inroads in the establishment this time around, it's gonna be a long time before it happens again. The establishment's gonna be well girded, well protected -- and this is for keeps. That's why...

I'm sorry. All of this is precisely why the focus on Hillary and Obama and the Democrats has been lost, because right now people are in a life-and-death struggle over their identity, their self-worth and any number of other things.
So Rush is just a crazy conspiracy theorists.
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