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Old 09-28-2015, 08:57 AM
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God's eternal purpose

In Eph 5, Paul said that the CAUSE for a man to leave father and mother and be joined to his wife was the relationship of Jesus and the Church as husband and wife.
Eph 5:30-32 KJV For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones. (31) For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. (32) This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
In other words, the reason there's marriage of MAN AND WOMAN (notice this is under attack lately) is to illustrate the relationship between the Lord and His Church. Long before Christ came for His Church, the picture of Adam being alone and needing a mate portrayed the then-future work of the cross, with Adam's sleep and material from within his body taken to build the woman.

Something was likewise IN GOD and came forth and drove God to become one with HIS BRIDE.
Eph 1:3-4 KJV Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: (4) According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
IN GOD was the purpose of his counterpart/bride. That was before the world was made, let alone Adam and Eve.

No wonder the marriage picture is under attack. It's the greatest insult the devil could make against the very purpose of mankind foreshadowed by the marriage of man and woman!
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God designed things so that His eternal purpose is to manifest His Spirit through mankind into the physical world... like children born of a mother.

Romans 7:4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

I saw a meme on facebook this weekend which went right along with this thought. It went something to this effect:

If God answered all our prayers, would the world be different, or would we be more comfortable in life?

So many prayers are shallow and selfish. God heal me. Give me give me give me.

What about the first two prayer requests on the list of the Lord's prayer?
1) THY KINGDOM COME
2) THY WILL BE DONE IN THE EARTH AS IT IS DONE IN HEAVEN

God's purpose is to manifest His glory through us. And when our prayers go in THIS direction, we are fulfilling our purpose. How many pray like this? We need to!
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God designed things so that His eternal purpose is to manifest His Spirit through mankind into the physical world... like children born of a mother.
Romans 7:4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
I saw a meme on facebook this weekend which went right along with this thought. It went something to this effect:
If God answered all our prayers, would the world be different, or would we be more comfortable in life?
So many prayers are shallow and selfish. God heal me. Give me give me give me.
What about the first two prayer requests on the list of the Lord's prayer?
1) THY KINGDOM COME
2) THY WILL BE DONE IN THE EARTH AS IT IS DONE IN HEAVEN
God's purpose is to manifest His glory through us. And when our prayers go in THIS direction, we are fulfilling our purpose. How many pray like this? We need to!
Amen.
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God designed things so that His eternal purpose is to manifest His Spirit through mankind into the physical world... like children born of a mother.

Romans 7:4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

I saw a meme on facebook this weekend which went right along with this thought. It went something to this effect:

If God answered all our prayers, would the world be different, or would we be more comfortable in life?

So many prayers are shallow and selfish. God heal me. Give me give me give me.

What about the first two prayer requests on the list of the Lord's prayer?
1) THY KINGDOM COME
2) THY WILL BE DONE IN THE EARTH AS IT IS DONE IN HEAVEN

God's purpose is to manifest His glory through us. And when our prayers go in THIS direction, we are fulfilling our purpose. How many pray like this? We need to!
Thank you Sir.
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Re: God's eternal purpose

Beautiful parallel, Bro. Blume, about the church and Christ.

And I so agree that the prayer on our lips should be for HIS will to be done on earth (not ours... as we so often pray). It is only when we have completely surrendered our will to His that we can pray this way, with results.

Thank you for sharing this encouraging word!
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Right on, folks. This is a vital issue in the Word.

Paul said in the first chapter of Ephesians that we were chosen to the praise of His glory. He mentioned that phrase three times.

Ephesians 1:6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.

Ephesians 1:12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.

Ephesians 1:14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.


And a hint of what that means is here:

John 2:11 This beginning of miracles did Jesus in Cana of Galilee, and manifested forth his glory; and his disciples believed on him.

The first miracle Jesus ever did was at a WEDDING OF A MAN AND WOMAN (hint hint), and was water turning into wine. And it phrased it by saying Jesus manifested GOD'S GLORY! That's what we were created for. To the praise OF HIS GLORY.

We are meant to manifest the glory of God through our lives like mothers giving birth to children for their husband's name. This is why the church is likened to a BRIDE.

We need to keep this in mind.

I am currently teaching this to our church. It's really His eternal purpose for us! What are we manifesting in our lives that brings forth praise of His glory?
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It's beautifully laid out to see Genesis 1 and 1 John 1 and John 1 lay emphasis upon the BEGINNING, LIFE, LIGHT, DARKNESS and fellowship with the Lord. A new Genesis! New creation. Jesus is the Light that was spoken, word, into the world. He was baptized, and the Spirit like a dove came down on Him as the Spirit literally hovered or brooded over the earth covered in water.

And He is the new Adam who was foreshadowed in a marriage performing the first miracle at a wedding. Then John the Baptist speaks of Christ as the bridegroom who must increase, as John was the friend of the bridegroom to bring the bride to Him. And He must increase as Adam was to multiply and fill the earth.
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Right, Bro. Blume... indeed as you said it earlier, that is why the institution of marriage between a man and a woman is under attack by the enemy, because it destroys the very image and parallel God set forth in the earth with the picture of the church.
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Right, Bro. Blume... indeed as you said it earlier, that is why the institution of marriage between a man and a woman is under attack by the enemy, because it destroys the very image and parallel God set forth in the earth with the picture of the church.
And that's why Romans 1 associates homosexuality with changing the glory of God into creeping things and animals.

When we change what His glory really is, then the IMAGE of his glory, mankind, is perverted as well. Homosexuality is rooted in some form or fashion to people twisting God's glory into something He is not, and it affects them and turns them into those who pervert his image in themselves.

God's glory is meant to work through us. To the praise of HIS GLORY. And that is like a woman having a relationship with a man and producing offspring. All of that is GONE when a person does not see the true glory of God, but twists and diminishes it, so that this glory cannot flow through them.
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