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Old 08-12-2015, 04:03 PM
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"Easter" was not a pagan word in 1611

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1 Acts 12:4 in Greek and English
2 Easter is not a pagan word2.1 Myth 1: the KJV translators used "Easter" to refer to a pagan festival
2.2 Myth 2: "Easter" comes from the goddess named "Ishtar" or "Astarte"
2.3 Myth 3: "Easter" comes from the goddess named "Eostre"2.3.1

"Easter" means "dawn"
2.3.2 The resurrection morning = "dawn" par excellence
2.3.3 The resurrection = spiritual "dawn"
2.3.4 The etymology of "Easter" is similar to that of Aνατελλω


2.4 Myth 4: "Easter" is tainted by residual pagan etymology
2.5 Myth 5: "Easter eggs" and "Easter bunnies" discredit Easter
2.6 Myth 6: The calculation of the date of Easter is pagan

3 The KJV is correct in having "Easter" at Acts 12:43.1 "Pascha" means Easter today
3.2 "Pascha" meant Easter in the first century
3.3 "Pascha" meant Easter to Luke, the narrator of Acts 12:


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Re: "Easter" was not a pagan word in 1611

Old English Easterdæg, from Eastre (Northumbrian Eostre), from Proto-Germanic *austron-, "dawn," also the name of a goddess of fertility and spring, perhaps originally of sunrise, whose feast was celebrated at the spring equinox, from *aust- "east, toward the sunrise" (compare east), from PIE *aus- (1) "to shine" (especially of the dawn); see aurora.
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Old English Easterdæg, from Eastre (Northumbrian Eostre), from Proto-Germanic *austron-, "dawn," also the name of a goddess of fertility and spring, perhaps originally of sunrise, whose feast was celebrated at the spring equinox, from *aust- "east, toward the sunrise" (compare east), from PIE *aus- (1) "to shine" (especially of the dawn); see aurora.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=easter
Amen. And pascha means Passover. The actual meaning of the word Passover has nothing to do with dawn. Lol.
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Pascha is Greek transliteration for the Hebrew word for Passover.

pesach
peh'-sakh

From pasach, a pretermission, that is, exemption; used only technically of the Jewish Passover (the festival or the victim): - passover (offering).

The word itself has Nothing to do with implying dawn no matter how one tries to insert dawn into it from various events. We're talking about the actual word and its meaning. We cannot insert events into the word's definition to try to justify an alien word that the word itself does not mean.
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Old English Easterdæg, from Eastre (Northumbrian Eostre), from Proto-Germanic *austron-, "dawn," also the name of a goddess of fertility and spring, perhaps originally of sunrise, whose feast was celebrated at the spring equinox, from *aust- "east, toward the sunrise" (compare east), from PIE *aus- (1) "to shine" (especially of the dawn); see aurora.
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Amen. And pascha means Passover. The actual meaning of the word Passover has nothing to do with dawn. Lol.
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Pascha is Greek transliteration for the Hebrew word for Passover.

pesach
peh'-sakh

From pasach, a pretermission, that is, exemption; used only technically of the Jewish Passover (the festival or the victim): - passover (offering).

The word itself has Nothing to do with implying dawn no matter how one tries to insert dawn into it from various events. We're talking about the actual word and its meaning. We cannot insert events into the word's definition to try to justify an alien word that the word itself does not mean.
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Re: "Easter" was not a pagan word in 1611

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Old English Easterdæg, from Eastre (Northumbrian Eostre), from Proto-Germanic *austron-, "dawn," also the name of a goddess of fertility and spring, perhaps originally of sunrise, whose feast was celebrated at the spring equinox, from *aust- "east, toward the sunrise" (compare east), from PIE *aus- (1) "to shine" (especially of the dawn); see aurora.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=easter
Sorry to burst your bubble, but the KJV Only crowd live in a fantasy wonderland where queen Gail Riplinger can make a word mean whatever she wants it to mean, never mind the dictionary. The Mad Hatter AKA Sean is a loyal pet subject of the queen.
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Re: "Easter" was not a pagan word in 1611

Obviously the KJV attacker crowd did not read the link...LOL


"Easter" is etymologically related to "east" (the direction) and refers to the "rising" of our Lord.

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Re: "Easter" was not a pagan word in 1611

Christ's resurrection is a "dawn" also in a spiritual sense because that is when the light of salvation rose (resurrected) from the darkness of death. The following passages compare Christ to the sun rising from darkness:
"Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of the LORD is risen upon thee. For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people: but the LORD shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee. And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising." (Isaiah 60:1-3)
"But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings;" (Malachi 4:2)
"And thou, child, shalt be called the prophet of the Highest: for thou shalt go before the face of the Lord to prepare his ways; To give knowledge of salvation unto his people by the remission of their sins, Through the tender mercy of our God; whereby the dayspring from on high hath visited us, To give light to them that sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of peace. (Luke 1:76-79)
"We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:" (2 Peter 1:19)
"I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star." (Revelation 22:16)
Some Christians try to avoid anything that has to do with sunrise imagery, presuming that it is pagan. Yet God in his Holy word compares Christ to the rising sun. The word, "Easter" (austra in Proto-Germanic and aster in Old Frisian; see above), with its connotation of a sunrise, pays tribute to this biblical imagery of Christ as the "Sun of righteousness". The word translated "dayspring" at Luke 1:78 is "ανατολη", which means "1) a rising (of the sun and stars); 2) the east (the direction of the sun’s rising)" (Thayer's Greek-English Lexicon). The Old West-Saxon version of the Gospel of Luke translates the word as "eastdæle", which is the Saxon word for "east/sunrise". Luke 1:78 in West-Saxon reads, "þurh innoþas ures godes mildheortnesse. on þam he us geneosode of eastdæle up springende;" This is another proof that the word "Easter" came from the biblical language of the Saxons.

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Re: "Easter" was not a pagan word in 1611

For those that are convinced the KJV Bible translators got Acts 12:4 wrong....

Many English-speaking people are deceived by the similar sounds between "Pascha" and "Passover" and therefore find it difficult to understand that "Pascha" could mean Easter. The English word, "Passover", is a perfect translation of "Pascha" in the context of the Jewish celebration because the root Hebrew word, "פּסח (pasach)", means "to pass over" (Brown-Driver-Briggs’ Hebrew Definitions). Yet it is only in English that the verb, "pass over", and "Pasach/Pascha" are phonetically similar. In other languages, it is not so obvious from phonetics that "Pascha" refers to the Passover. Perhaps that is why in most other languages the primary meaning of "Pascha" is not Passover. For example, in modern Greek, "Πάσχα (Pascha)" primarily means Easter. When a non-Jewish Greek person says, "Καλό Πάσχα! (Happy Pascha!)", he is not wishing you a happy Jewish holiday but rather a happy Christian holiday. In modern Greek, Passover is the secondary meaning of "Pascha". "Pascha" means Passover only when the context is clearly Jewish or when the word is qualified as being the Hebrew or Jewish "Pascha" as follows:
Easter = Πάσχα (Pascha)
Passover = εβραϊκό Πάσχα (Hebrew Pascha), Πάσχα των ιουδαίων (Pascha of the Jew)

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Re: "Easter" was not a pagan word in 1611

"Pascha" meant Easter in the first century

There is no doubt that "Πάσχα" means Easter in modern Greek. The charge, however, is that "Πάσχα" did not mean Easter until centuries after the composition of Acts 12:4. This is not true. In the Gospel of John there is already a distinction being made between the Christian Πάσχα and the Jewish Πάσχα. One of the words for Passover in modern Greek is "Πάσχα των ιουδαίων" (Passover of the Jews). We see this same phrase already in the time of John the Apostle:
John 2:13: "And the Jews' passover was at hand...." (και εγγυς ην το πασχα των ιουδαιων)
John 11:55: "And the Jews' passover was nigh at hand...." (ην δε εγγυς το πασχα των ιουδαιων)
The fact that John writes, "Jews’ Pascha (πασχα των ιουδαιων)" indicates that there was a need to qualify the word "Pascha" for the immediate audience of John's Gospel. Such a phrase would be redundant unless there were already a distinction between a "Jew's" Pascha and "another" Pascha. Apparently within the first century, Christians had already appropriated the word "Pascha" to refer to the Christian celebration of the resurrection.

Eusebius' testimony is clear that the Apostles were already celebrating the "Saviour's Pascha", which is clearly not the "Jews' Pascha":

"Ζητήσεως δῆτα κατὰ τούσδε οὐ σμικρᾶς ἀνακινηθείσης, ὅτι δὴ τῆς Ἀσίας ἁπάσης αἱ παροικίαι ὡς ἐκ παραδόσεως ἀρχαιοτέρας σελήνης τὴν τεσσαρεσκαιδεκάτην ᾤοντο δεῖν ἐπὶ τῆς τοῦ σωτηρίου πάσχα ἑορτῆς παραφυλάττειν, ἐν ᾗ θύειν τὸ πρόβατον Ἰουδαίοις προηγόρευτο, ὡς δέον ἐκ παντὸς κατὰ ταύτην, ὁποίᾳ δἂν ἡμέρᾳ τῆς ἑβδομάδος περιτυγχάνοι, τὰς τῶν ἀσιτιῶν ἐπιλύσεις ποιεῖσθαι, οὐκ ἔθους ὄντος τοῦτον ἐπιτελεῖν τὸν τρόπον ταῖς ἀνὰ τὴν λοιπὴν ἅπασαν οἰκουμένην ἐκκλησίαις, ἐξ ἀποστολικῆς παραδόσεως τὸ καὶ εἰς δεῦρο κρατῆσαν ἔθος φυλαττούσαις, ὡς μηδ' ἑτέρᾳ προσήκειν παρὰ τὴν τῆς ἀναστάσεως τοῦ σωτῆρος ἡμῶν ἡμέρᾳ τὰς νηστείας ἐπιλύεσθαι" (Church History, Book V, 23:1)

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