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06-09-2007, 10:41 AM
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"Prophetic" Preaching
I talked to a pastor of a small independant Apostolic church this week. He told me he is a "prophetic" type preacher. He told me that a prophetic preacher doesn't preach a prepared sermon, but preaches to the needs of those in attendance, and allows God to lead him into what to say!
If this is the case, most 'prophetic' type preaching that I've heard ends up rambling from topic to topic, and when the sermon is over, I'm left wondering what the sermon was about. Baptism in Jesus name, and Acts 2:38 are almost always covered in these type sermons.
Methinks that 'prophetic' style preaching can be another word for lazy and unprepared!!! What think ye?
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06-09-2007, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Pianoman
I talked to a pastor of a small independant Apostolic church this week. He told me he is a "prophetic" type preacher. He told me that a prophetic preacher doesn't preach a prepared sermon, but preaches to the needs of those in attendance, and allows God to lead him into what to say!
If this is the case, most 'prophetic' type preaching that I've heard ends up rambling from topic to topic, and when the sermon is over, I'm left wondering what the sermon was about. Baptism in Jesus name, and Acts 2:38 are almost always covered in these type sermons.
Methinks that 'prophetic' style preaching can be another word for lazy and unprepared!!! What think ye?
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Back in the hills i heard them say "Open your mouth and God will fill it" I hate to think God filled their mouths with the disjointed montague that was pawned off as preaching.
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06-09-2007, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Pianoman
I talked to a pastor of a small independant Apostolic church this week. He told me he is a "prophetic" type preacher. He told me that a prophetic preacher doesn't preach a prepared sermon, but preaches to the needs of those in attendance, and allows God to lead him into what to say!
If this is the case, most 'prophetic' type preaching that I've heard ends up rambling from topic to topic, and when the sermon is over, I'm left wondering what the sermon was about. Baptism in Jesus name, and Acts 2:38 are almost always covered in these type sermons.
Methinks that 'prophetic' style preaching can be another word for lazy and unprepared!!! What think ye?
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That's the way my first pastor taught. He was instructed in a prophecy to preach that way. He prepares by daily study of the word of God. He was never disjointed although frequently he would start out on one topic and end on something else. I was fed by his teaching and found myself growing in the Lord. He was and to this day is the most godly person I have ever met.
He would often preach on things I was praying about, etc.
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06-09-2007, 11:06 AM
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That's the way my first pastor taught. He was instructed in a prophecy to preach that way. He prepares by daily study of the word of God. He was never disjointed although frequently he would start out on one topic and end on something else. I was fed by his teaching and found myself growing in the Lord. He was and to this day is the most godly person I have ever met.
He would often preach on things I was praying about, etc.
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Don't get me wrong, there are times when I feel that prophetic preaching is needed. I just don't think I could handle a steady diet of it.
I believe God can give you a word for the church days before a service, so you can study, research, pray, etc. and deliver the sermon in an educated and precise delivery. God knows the needs that will be there.
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06-09-2007, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Pianoman
I talked to a pastor of a small independant Apostolic church this week. He told me he is a "prophetic" type preacher. He told me that a prophetic preacher doesn't preach a prepared sermon, but preaches to the needs of those in attendance, and allows God to lead him into what to say!
If this is the case, most 'prophetic' type preaching that I've heard ends up rambling from topic to topic, and when the sermon is over, I'm left wondering what the sermon was about. Baptism in Jesus name, and Acts 2:38 are almost always covered in these type sermons.
Methinks that 'prophetic' style preaching can be another word for lazy and unprepared!!! What think ye?
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I think that is taken from the practice of the Quakers...it is not a way to shepherd a flock. I believe there are prophets for our age and many of them evangelize. They have their place, but I think Pastors need to be more prepared, more studied, and focused. God can change a sermon to suit those in attendance, but since he knows ahead of time who will be there...I think a Pastor who prays and studies will have the mind of God.
Just my humble opinion.
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06-09-2007, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Pianoman
Don't get me wrong, there are times when I feel that prophetic preaching is needed. I just don't think I could handle a steady diet of it.
I believe God can give you a word for the church days before a service, so you can study, research, pray, etc. and deliver the sermon in an educated and precise delivery. God knows the needs that will be there.
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I agree with you Pianoman.
I also think that in a message that's been prepared and studied for and prayed over ahead of time as it should be that God can move on the preacher, inspire him and he can speak "prophetically" in the middle of message designed to feed the flock.
This happened last week. My husband was at a conference and the afternoon speaker was delivering a message to a group of pastors and preachers that had been announced ahead of time.
In the middle of it without missing a beat he looked at my husband and gave him a prophetic message that was right on. Then he kept on going with his message.
A few minutes later ....... again he addressed my husband and spoke prophetically to him again, and again he was right on.
That was shared just to provide example of what I'm saying here.
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06-09-2007, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Pianoman
Don't get me wrong, there are times when I feel that prophetic preaching is needed. I just don't think I could handle a steady diet of it.
I believe God can give you a word for the church days before a service, so you can study, research, pray, etc. and deliver the sermon in an educated and precise delivery. God knows the needs that will be there.
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This man of God was specifically instructed to preach this way by the Holy Spirit in a word of prophecy. He obeyed the voice of God.
The two other pastors I've had (due to moving) do not preach that way but by the method most saints are use to. I have been blessed by both methods but I appreciate the faith and trust my first pastor as well as his walk with God.
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To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
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06-09-2007, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by mizpeh
This man of God was specifically instructed to preach this way by the Holy Spirit in a word of prophecy. He obeyed the voice of God.
The two other pastors I've had (due to moving) do not preach that way but by the method most saints are use to. I have been blessed by both methods but I appreciate the faith and trust my first pastor as well as his walk with God.
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I agree with you.I don't feel the Pastor/preacher who moves into the prophetic
realm in preaching is lazy.You always ought to be studying the word of God.
(btw who is in the new avatar?)
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06-09-2007, 06:29 PM
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I think there are times a preacher should just put his notes up and let the Spirit lead. But a Pastor needs to be able to TEACH at times, and this is usually not accomplished when the service is "flowing".
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06-09-2007, 07:19 PM
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I agree with you.I don't feel the Pastor/preacher who moves into the prophetic
realm in preaching is lazy.You always ought to be studying the word of God.
(btw who is in the new avatar?)
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To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
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