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View Poll Results: If you drink any deadly thing, will it hurt you?
Yes. Pretty sure it will. 5 62.50%
No. Not a chance. I have God's promise. 0 0%
Don't know. 1 12.50%
Other. 2 25.00%
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Old 11-14-2013, 10:04 AM
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If you drink any deadly thing.....

....will it hurt you?
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Old 11-14-2013, 10:48 AM
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Yes if u drink the cool aide it will hurt u and turn u into a lib
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Old 11-14-2013, 11:34 AM
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Yes if u drink the cool aide it will hurt u and turn u into a lib
Well, I did vote yes, so...
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It's a landslide! The Yeses win! Or, actually, the Yes. Singular.
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It's a landslide! The Yeses win! Or, actually, the Yes. Singular.
I doubt you're going to get much participation on this poll.
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Old 11-14-2013, 12:03 PM
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It's a landslide! The Yeses win! Or, actually, the Yes. Singular.
I had to vote "other" because it's a trick question, a contradiction of terms if taken very literally, (as believers should do except when they don't.)

If a "deadly drink" does NOT kill you when ingested, then it wasn't a deadly drink in that particular case, by definition. I would have called it a "poisonous drink." But I don't blame Jesus for this misstep of language in this case, because (aside from not knowing if "deadly" is a good translation) that verse is also part of Mark 16:9-20 (12 verses!) which do not appear in the earliest manuscripts of Mark. The verses were simply made up by scribes or someone and added because of the cliffhanger ending of Mark 16:8. They probably didn't like that kind of abrupt ending to "Mark", so took an opportunity to fix things. Nice Omnipotence there.

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The verses were simply made up by scribes or someone and added because of the cliffhanger ending of Mark 16:8.
Kind of like how you just made up the scholarly judgement there.

But for those who might be easily confused by this tripe, here -

http://www.bible-researcher.com/endmark.html#dissent

But I am certain that our resident agnostic/atheists have scholarly credentials that clearly outclass Mr Scrivener's, Mr Burgon's, and many others.

Of course.
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Re: If you drink any deadly thing.....

I drank some Pabst Blue Ribbon once and am still here. That should answer your question.

NOW, I usually do not drink beer, but when I do. . . .



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Old 11-14-2013, 12:56 PM
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Re: If you drink any deadly thing.....

So, what does this scripture mean anyway? Because I don't know of any Christians who would drink a deadly thing thinking it would not harm them.
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Kind of like how you just made up the scholarly judgement there.

But for those who might be easily confused by this tripe, here -

http://www.bible-researcher.com/endmark.html#dissent

But I am certain that our resident agnostic/atheists have scholarly credentials that clearly outclass Mr Scrivener's, Mr Burgon's, and many others.

Of course.
Funny--your sarcasm and meaness exceeds mine!

Obviously I don't really know WHY or when scribes or whomever did add Mark 16:9-20 did so, and I am obviously going to take a more cynical viewpoint than the faithful "tripe"-haters such as you and the esteemed scholar Scrivener. Interesting, though, that in spite of all that Greek you linked to, (which I don't pretend to follow) every Bible I have containing Mark 16:9-20 does honestly notate in margin something such as "Vss 9-20 do not appear in earliest manuscripts."

The article you linked is mostly proving that in spite of not being written by "Mark" the early church fathers still regarded the verses as "canonical." No great surprise there. Per Scrivener's concluding sentence,

<<So powerfully is it vouched for, that many of those who are reluctant to recognize St. Mark as its author, are content to regard it notwithstanding as an integral portion of the inspired record originally delivered to the Church.>>

Ah... the powerful vouching by others! IOW, some early fathers, although knowing the verses were not authored by Mark, they were still "content to regard it as canon."

Bruce Metzger implies similarly, article directly above the linked Scrivener, thus,
<<There seems to be good reason, therefore, to conclude that, though external and internal evidence is conclusive against the authenticity of the last twelve verses as coming from the same pen as the rest of the Gospel, the passage ought to be accepted as part of the canonical text of Mark.>>.

So there ya go, "Ought to be accepted as canon" although known to be not authored by Mark.

Nice faith. Er, uh, I mean nice evidence, there. Canonicity is so.....so, divinely-inspired!
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