10 Largerst Papers Blame GOP

Dedicated Mind · #1 10-02-2013, 02:55 PM

including conservative wallstreet journal and ny post. read excerpts of editorial positions in this article, but most republicans continue believing in an alternate universe.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/1...n_4030763.html

odooley6985 · #2 10-02-2013, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

including conservative wallstreet journal and ny post. read excerpts of editorial positions in this article, but most republicans continue believing in an alternate universe.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/1...n_4030763.html

Does it matter who is to blame? That being said, how is it not the GOPs fault? Like I said in another thread, this is Obama's signature piece of legistlation(FOR GOOD OR BAD) and the GOP expects him to agree to a budget that defunds it? He comes out and states that he will veto any budget that does not fund Obamacare. So what does the GOP do? They continue to submit budgets that defund Obamacare. So in light of all that, whose fault is it? Does the GOP really expect to win with this line of thinking? I dont care who gets blame or credit. I really dont.

Originalist · #3 10-02-2013, 05:01 PM

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including conservative wallstreet journal and ny post. read excerpts of editorial positions in this article, but most republicans continue believing in an alternate universe.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/1...n_4030763.html

Again, how is simply asking for a one year delay of the individual mandate a bad thing? Obamacare will continue , but without the mandate. Why is that bad? why will you not answer the question?

Originalist · #4 10-02-2013, 05:02 PM

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Does it matter who is to blame? That being said, how is it not the GOPs fault? Like I said in another thread, this is Obama's signature piece of legistlation(FOR GOOD OR BAD) and the GOP expects him to agree to a budget that defunds it? He comes out and states that he will veto any budget that does not fund Obamacare. So what does the GOP do? They continue to submit budgets that defund Obamacare. So in light of all that, whose fault is it? Does the GOP really expect to win with this line of thinking? I dont care who gets blame or credit. I really dont.

The House has said that they will fund it if the Dems to agree a one year delay of the individual mandate. Why is this bad?

deacon blues · #5 10-02-2013, 05:03 PM

Shocker. Mainstream media blames the GOP. That's news?

odooley6985 · #6 10-02-2013, 05:26 PM

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The House has said that they will fund it if the Dems to agree a one year delay of the individual mandate. Why is this bad?

Personally I dont think its bad cause I hate that there is a mandate and that the mandate will be enforced by the IRS goon squad. Obviously Obama and co feel its central to the law.

Originalist · #7 10-02-2013, 05:34 PM

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Personally I dont think its bad cause I hate that there is a mandate and that the mandate will be enforced by the IRS goon squad. Obviously Obama and co feel its central to the law.

Then should not Obama be a statement and negotiate? Why the "my way or the highway" attitude from the White House?

Dedicated Mind · #8 10-02-2013, 05:49 PM

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Again, how is simply asking for a one year delay of the individual mandate a bad thing? Obamacare will continue , but without the mandate. Why is that bad? why will you not answer the question?

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Then should not Obama be a statement and negotiate? Why the "my way or the highway" attitude from the White House?

the individual mandate is the most crucial aspect of obamacare. without the mandate healthy people don't have an incentive to sign up and obamacare needs the max number of people to sign up in order to drive down the costs of premiums for everyone especially sick people. what is so difficult to understand about that?

odooley6985 · #9 10-02-2013, 06:26 PM

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Then should not Obama be a statement and negotiate? Why the "my way or the highway" attitude from the White House?

Well if I could maybe get inside his head, he is probably taking the stance that it already got approved by congress and upheld by the Supreme Court, therefore he feels like he shouldnt have to negotiate with anyone. If polling numbers are correct, the majority dont want this bill. That should be a sign right there. Also, with regards to Congress passing the bill, that was when the DEMs held a majority. Now they dont. Some who voted for the act are gone because they did. Bottom line I blame all of the false narratives and misunderstandings of this bill on the Pelosi's of the world who had to pass it to find out what was in it. Worst Congress+Worst President=Failure!

Originalist · #10 10-02-2013, 08:17 PM

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the individual mandate is the most crucial aspect of obamacare. without the mandate healthy people don't have an incentive to sign up and obamacare needs the max number of people to sign up in order to drive down the costs of premiums for everyone especially sick people. what is so difficult to understand about that?

It's already been proven to be a myth that this will drive down costs, and sick people's premiums and deductibles are going to be huge.

Fifty seven percent of the people do not want this, and it needs to be slowed down, at the very least, to allow more study. People are going to have to be threatened and bullied into participating. Is that what you want?