Newt Gingrich-The Fiscal Cliff is a Fantasy

[Pressing-On]

Great speech. He discusses the "fiscal cliff" beginning at the 15:48 marker.

A Reagan Forum with Newt and Callista Gingrich - 11/28/12

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJVIA...ayer_embedded#

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[Dedicated Mind]

po, are you back in the party or still supporting third party?

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Great speech. He discusses the "fiscal cliff" beginning at the 15:48 marker.

A Reagan Forum with Newt and Callista Gingrich - 11/28/12

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJVIA...ayer_embedded#

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Newt is a great historian, and speaker, don't know why he didn't have traction?? Glad to know he is working behind the scenes, hope springs eternal!!

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

po, are you back in the party or still supporting third party?

The RNC is in the doghouse with me right now. However, I will listen to anyone who is bold and fearless (watching to see how Rand Paul pans out). I did vote for two Republicans in the General election. Of course, neither were for the position of El Presidente.

DM, The Q&A was great. Did you listen to it? He had great comments on immigration, why the "gift" idea on the loss for the Republicans was bogus, and then he, of course, had to skirt (skirt is not the right word. He answered the question, but after following everything said during the primaries, I knew he couldn't really be honest and open) the question put to him about Romney being forced down our throats. lol How did that woman think he could actually tell what really happened? I was thinking, "Duh, lady. He's being recorded here." lol

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by crakjak

Newt is a great historian, and speaker, don't know why he didn't have traction?? Glad to know he is working behind the scenes, hope springs eternal!!

You don't know why he didn't gain traction....I'm just going to let that float into space.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

po, are you back in the party or still supporting third party?

Look at how stupid the Republican Party is. I have no idea what in the world is going on with them. They are off the reservation, that's for sure.

Here is the roll call for Amendment 3018 to the NDAA. The amendment reinforces the rights prescribed to Americans in the Sixth Amendment of the Constitution, to ensure that American citizens cannot be held indefinitely without trial. The amendment passed 67-29.

NAY's :
Ayotte (R-NH)
Brown (R-MA)
Burr (R-NC)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coats (R-IN)
Cochran (R-MS)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Grassley (R-IA)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johanns (R-NE)
Johnson (R-WI)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Lieberman (ID-CT)
Lugar (R-IN)
Manchin (D-WV)
McConnell (R-KY)
Nelson (D-NE)
Portman (R-OH)
Pryor (D-AR)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rubio (R-FL)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Thune (R-SD)
Toomey (R-PA)
Vitter (R-LA)
Wicker (R-MS)

YEA's:
Akaka (D-HI)
Alexander (R-TN)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Baucus (D-MT)
Begich (D-AK)
Bennet (D-CO)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Blumenthal (D-CT)
Blunt (R-MO)
Boozman (R-AR)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brown (D-OH)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Cardin (D-MD)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Coburn (R-OK)
Collins (R-ME)
Conrad (D-ND)
Coons (D-DE)
Corker (R-TN)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Durbin (D-IL)
Enzi (R-WY)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Franken (D-MN)
Gillibrand (D-NY)
Graham (R-SC)
Hagan (D-NC)
Harkin (D-IA)
Hoeven (R-ND)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Inouye (D-HI)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kerry (D-MA)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Kohl (D-WI)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Lee (R-UT)
Levin (D-MI)
McCain (R-AZ)
McCaskill (D-MO)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Merkley (D-OR)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Moran (R-KS)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Paul (R-KY)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Risch (R-ID)
Sanders (I-VT)
Schumer (D-NY)
Shaheen (D-NH)
Snowe (R-ME)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Tester (D-MT)
Udall (D-CO)
Udall (D-NM)
Warner (D-VA)
Webb (D-VA)
Whitehouse (D-RI)

[Dedicated Mind]

po. that vote tally is amazing, I don't see how average americans don't see that repubs are after government power in a different way than democrats. i believe that democrats defend people rights more than republicans. maybe it's a different set of rights that both parties are trying to defend and control.

i went to the fiscal cliff point in the video and watched a few minutes but i recently read "a theology of liberation" by gustavo gutierrez and my religion has merged with my politics. i think i am more left than before, not a radical yet, but i am exploring a lot of liberation material that seeks to interpret the bible through the lens of the poor, marginalized and oppressed. there is woman's liberation theology, black liberation theology, and a general class liberation theology etc. i'm afraid i don't have a whole hour for newt.

[Nitehawk013]

"I'm a lib because I don't like that there are winners and losers in society. I think the Government should steal all the money and give each person an equal amount so that no matter how hard we work or how lazy we are...we are all equal. It's just not fair that there are poor people. Boohoo. My name is Demented Mind".

YOu want liberation? Tell those who are poor to get jobs and make better decisions in life and with their money. Same for women. Same for blacks. Same for ALL.

[crakjak]

[QUOTE=Pressing-On;1204869]You don't know why he didn't gain traction....I'm just going to let that float into space. [/QUOTE

O yeah, I forgot, you have all the inside scoop!! And how it is better to have four more of Obomma!

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by crakjak

O yeah, I forgot, you have all the inside scoop!! And how it is better to have four more of Obomma!

You might want to look at why ORomney received less of the Asian vote than he did the Hispanic vote.

It looks like Newt would like to change the party within, but after how they threw him under the bus until AFTER their candidate lost, I doubt they can self-correct. NOW everyone is calling for Newt to come and explain how to fix what is wrong. Go figure.

Did it ever occur to the Republican Party and those that supported Romney that he was just a ruse of a candidate? Did it ever occur to them that a legitimate candidate who really offered true and honest change would have won? Did it ever occur to them that Romney had a liberal record on taxes, Cap and Trade, gay marriage, gay rights, quotas, gun control, immigration.

Did they not notice that the "conservative leaders" tried to portray him as something he was not - a "severe conservative"?

No wonder 3 million Republicans stayed home. What was the point? Obviously, they didn't buy what Romney was selling.

Don't they know that we saw him for what he was, a Progressive who would have set the party back for decades? He would have come into the WH hiding under a mantle of being a conservative and carried out his big government agenda that he had going on in Massachusetts.

I don't necessarily endorse Marco Rubio, but he had it right that many cannot find a job and are not necessarily wanting a handout. Newt lays that argument out very well in the video during the Q&A toward the end.

And who in the world is going to work their backsides off when the government (of BOTH parties) stymies personal growth? Why not vote for the candidate who offers a cushion while waiting for the economy to recover?

I am glad he lost. Now, let us see if the Republicans are really serious about the country or if they are also part of the problem. I suspect they are part of the duopoly problem. Look at the NDAA amendment vote tally above - that shows they are part of the problem.

And if anyone wants to go the route of voter fraud, just look a little deeper at what Romney pulled off during the Republican primaries. What goes around comes around. He got his comeuppance.