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09-20-2012, 06:47 AM
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Friends church droppped "standards"
Friends church has moved away from standard. Pants, earrings etc..... He stated it seened church was "closer to God" and more commited as well as fellowshipped more before all the changes. Anyone else experience this?
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09-20-2012, 07:14 AM
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Re: Friends church droppped "standards"
Now that I've lost everything to you,
you say you want to start something new,
and it's breaking my heart you're leaving,
baby I'm grieving.
But if you wanna leave take good care,
hope you have a lot of nice things to wear,
but then a lot of nice things turn bad out there.
Oh baby baby it's a wild world,
it's hard to get by just upon a smile.
Oh baby baby it's a wild world.
I'll always remember you like a child, girl.
You know I've seen a lot of what the world can do,
and it's breaking my heart in two,
cause I never want to see you sad girl,
don't be a bad girl,
but if you want to leave take good care,
hope you make a lot of nice friends out there,
but just remember there's a lot of bad and beware,
beware,
Oh baby baby it's a wild world,
it's hard to get by just upon a smile
Oh baby baby it's a wild world,
and I'll always remember you like a child, girl.
Baby I love you, but if you wanna leave take good care,
hope you make a lot of nice friends out there,
but just remember there's a lot of bad,
and beware, beware,
oh baby baby it's a wild world,
it's hard to get by just upon a smile.
Oh baby baby it's a wild world,
and I'll always remember you like a child, girl.
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09-20-2012, 08:06 AM
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Re: Friends church droppped "standards"
"He stated it seemed church was 'closer to God' and more commited as well as fellowshipped more before all the changes" meaning before the standards were dropped? I have sen this, and it is typical. If I may, "I was raised, all my life, around women with long hair who did not wear pants" (for example) "now you want me to fellowship with people who think differently. That man has an almost-beard, for God's sake, he is prolly a bank robber."
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09-20-2012, 09:03 AM
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Re: Friends church droppped "standards"
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Originally Posted by Truthseeker
Friends church has moved away from standard. Pants, earrings etc..... He stated it seened church was "closer to God" and more commited as well as fellowshipped more before all the changes. Anyone else experience this?
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Yes.
For me, my Christianity went from abiding by standards to be "holy" (as defined by the holiness movement) to living incarnationally... meaning living in a spiritual oneness with Christ, through the Holy Spirit, and manifesting His personal reality in my very being. The only standards held are simple... love God with all your being... love others as yourself. If we live by those two principles we need not focus on earthly standards.
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09-20-2012, 10:42 AM
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Re: Friends church droppped "standards"
Less felloiwship happens because other churches ostracize your congregation. In many cases it takes time to assimilate in a different religious environment.
Man made standards give people a false sense of being closer to God. Works based salvation is a substitute for relationship.
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Originally Posted by Truthseeker
Friends church has moved away from standard. Pants, earrings etc..... He stated it seened church was "closer to God" and more commited as well as fellowshipped more before all the changes. Anyone else experience this?
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Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
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09-20-2012, 11:42 AM
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Re: Friends church droppped "standards"
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"He stated it seemed church was 'closer to God' and more commited as well as fellowshipped more before all the changes" meaning before the standards were dropped? I have sen this, and it is typical. If I may, "I was raised, all my life, around women with long hair who did not wear pants" (for example) "now you want me to fellowship with people who think differently. That man has an almost-beard, for God's sake, he is prolly a bank robber."
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LOL!! About 30 years ago when we had left the UPC and were members of a large exUPC church I had a UPC niece and her family come to visit. They went to church with us and after service my niece, who was about 10 at the time, was traumatized because her Sunday School teacher that morning had a mustache or beard! She was literally crying. LOL. I guess she thought a really bad man was teaching her SS class.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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09-20-2012, 11:47 AM
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Re: Friends church droppped "standards"
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Originally Posted by Aquila
Yes.
For me, my Christianity went from abiding by standards to be "holy" (as defined by the holiness movement) to living incarnationally... meaning living in a spiritual oneness with Christ, through the Holy Spirit, and manifesting His personal reality in my very being. The only standards held are simple... love God with all your being... love others as yourself. If we live by those two principles we need not focus on earthly standards.
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09-20-2012, 11:51 AM
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Re: Friends church droppped "standards"
I left the outward standards back in the 1970's. I have been serving God and preaching for about 30 years since then and do feel that it is much better to trust my salvation to Jesus Christ instead of how well I can perform.
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09-20-2012, 01:28 PM
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Re: Friends church droppped "standards"
A church does not need to drop the "standards" entirely to experience all the above. They merely have to drop the attitude, to experience Christ more and drop someone's idea of standards or not be as strict on them to not be fellowshipped as much (or fellowshipped as much by certain churches
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- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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09-20-2012, 06:34 PM
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Re: Friends church droppped "standards"
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