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Blame Obama for what happened in middle east
We supported the 'Islamic Spring' in Egypt and Libya. We even helped. Did anyone really believe what would be better is what they have now? I've hear before that Democracy never works in these kinds of nations. Why? It allows the extremist elements to gain power.
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09-17-2012, 05:46 PM
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Re: Blame Obama for what happened in middle east
And we send them millions in aid and most goes to the military
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09-17-2012, 05:54 PM
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Re: Blame Obama for what happened in middle east
I agree with what has already been said. I do think much of the blame lies squarely on Obamas narrow shoulders. One of his first mistakes was going on an "apology tour" in the beginning of his dictatorship and then again recently with this anti islam video. Western societies view an apology as an opportunity to forgive, many mid eastern societies view an apology as a full admission of guilt and an opportunity to punish. This former PLO terrorist-turned Christian has an interesting take on the events happening in the mid-east. http://www.shoebat.com/archive/h_media.php
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09-17-2012, 06:30 PM
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Re: Blame Obama for what happened in middle east
This should be in the politics section.
Libya's attack was a well-thought out and planned assault on America's embassy, coiniciding with 9/11.
It was a Libya minority that carried out the attacks.
It was a group of Libyan's that pulled the Ambassador's body from the rubble and it was Libyans who were cheering when they realized he was alive still. It was a Libyan doctor that tried to save the Ambassaor's life.
It is the Libyan people who are also mourning the loss of our Ambassador.
The attack has very little to do with Obama's policies as much as it has to do with America in general.
Egypt's riots and the other riots are a knee-jerk reaction to a poorly made American flick attacking their prophet. How can we tie their response to Obama's policies? They react like this whenever anything is said about their prophet-- but to call him a homosexual and a pedophile and all the other insults were apparently too much truth for some to handle.
They want to be upset. They want to protest? Fine. Freedom of speech is good but violence in these cases is ignorant.
Why would anyone blame their ignorance on Obama?
Why isn't this thread n the political section?
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09-17-2012, 06:34 PM
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Re: Blame Obama for what happened in middle east
Blaming Obama is about as ignorant as blaming Bush.
The blame lies directly on the shoulders of the ones who commit the crimes.
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09-17-2012, 06:57 PM
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Re: Blame Obama for what happened in middle east
now jd is taking up for muslims in the rest of the world as well as wh,some things never change, maybe he should change his name to wii 2 ps the pic i saw of him, he had a hole in the top of his head, im calling daid !
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09-17-2012, 07:49 PM
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Re: Blame Obama for what happened in middle east
Or we could blame 50+ years of interventionist US foreign policy (including, but not limited to, Obama)... and, even more importantly, we need to blame the ones who committed the violence.
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09-17-2012, 08:04 PM
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Re: Blame Obama for what happened in middle east
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
This should be in the politics section.
Libya's attack was a well-thought out and planned assault on America's embassy, coiniciding with 9/11.
It was a Libya minority that carried out the attacks.
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Of course but would it have happened under Qaddafi's watch?
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It was a group of Libyan's that pulled the Ambassador's body from the rubble and it was Libyans who were cheering when they realized he was alive still. It was a Libyan doctor that tried to save the Ambassaor's life.
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Of course but would it have happened under Qaddafi's watch?
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It is the Libyan people who are also mourning the loss of our Ambassador.
The attack has very little to do with Obama's policies as much as it has to do with America in general.
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Of course but would it have happened under Qaddafi's watch?
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Egypt's riots and the other riots are a knee-jerk reaction to a poorly made American flick attacking their prophet. How can we tie their response to Obama's policies? They react like this whenever anything is said about their prophet-- but to call him a homosexual and a pedophile and all the other insults were apparently too much truth for some to handle.
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Of course but would it have happened under Mubarak's watch?
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They want to be upset. They want to protest? Fine. Freedom of speech is good but violence in these cases is ignorant.
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Of course but would it have happened under Mubarak's watch?
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Why would anyone blame their ignorance on Obama?
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Apparently the point went over your head
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Why isn't this thread n the political section?
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Why are you here? You said you were leaving
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09-17-2012, 08:05 PM
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Or we could blame 50+ years of interventionist US foreign policy (including, but not limited to, Obama)... and, even more importantly, we need to blame the ones who committed the violence.
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Yes!!!!! Agreed.
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09-17-2012, 08:07 PM
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Re: Blame Obama for what happened in middle east
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Originally Posted by AreYouReady?
Blaming Obama is about as ignorant as blaming Bush.
The blame lies directly on the shoulders of the ones who commit the crimes.
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Would these have happened if the former rulers were still in power in both Libya or Egypt? Or to be more specific, if the Mob protests that over threw Egyptian government with our approval and Libyan with our bombs and guns had NOT been successful, would these kinds of riots still be happening there?
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