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09-11-2012, 08:30 PM
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Mark Levin on the Possibility of a Third Party
Levin gets it. We must stop Obama and elect Romney. He says that if Romney is another Ford or Bush, then we should start a third party. I'm in agreement here. Let's get Obama out of here first then see what the GOP will do. We can make them pay in the 2014 midterms! Let's not take it out on the GOP now. Obama is way too dangerous.
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Mark Levin: We have to demand that candidates, who ask for our votes, hold fast to our principles and values, because those are never up for negotiation or to be treated as a political expedient.
We can fight like hell to defeat Obama and elect Romney and not sell out our core principles, and that's what we're forced to do and that's what we're going to do. Polls be damned; commentators be damned; analyses be damned. That's what each and every one of us have to be committed to.
So yes, I understand the anxiety, I have it too. But we must beat Obama. We must take the Senate. We must hold the House. And then the Grand Old Party has no excuses of any kind. If it winds up being another Bush administration, or Ford administration, or Nixon administration, they all have to go. I've been saying for the longest time the leaders of this party are weak and they need to go already.
If the GOP fails to produce -- apparently this is a big issue today, I think I've been talking about this if not months, for years. I believe a third party will form. And I said the other day, I believe the Republican party will become the minority party. But this will likely lead to years of Democrat dominance as our forces will be split and the country will be irretrievably transformed. This election is for all the marbles. You have every reason to be concerned, and if you are concerned, you are a patriot because you want to preserve our nation. If not, you're a drone. You're a taker. (Mark Levin Show, 9/10/2012)
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09-11-2012, 08:54 PM
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Re: Mark Levin on the Possibility of a Third Party
Deacon, did you see the clip of Romney saying he will not repeal Obamacare?
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09-11-2012, 09:19 PM
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Re: Mark Levin on the Possibility of a Third Party
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Deacon, did you see the clip of Romney saying he will not repeal Obamacare?
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Did he say he would not repeal it or did he say that in his plan to reform healthcare he would keep preexisting conditions and older children on parents insurance?
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09-11-2012, 09:36 PM
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Re: Mark Levin on the Possibility of a Third Party
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Originally Posted by deacon blues
Levin gets it. We must stop Obama and elect Romney. He says that if Romney is another Ford or Bush, then we should start a third party. I'm in agreement here. Let's get Obama out of here first then see what the GOP will do. We can make them pay in the 2014 midterms! Let's not take it out on the GOP now. Obama is way too dangerous.
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And what do we do when he turns out to be another Obama?
...and don't tell us he won't be because it sure looks like it from here.
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09-11-2012, 09:41 PM
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Re: Mark Levin on the Possibility of a Third Party
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Did he say he would not repeal it or did he say that in his plan to reform healthcare he would keep preexisting conditions and older children on parents insurance?
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Ah...but deacon, what is it that you dislike about Obamacare that you want repealed so much that you are desperate to vote Obama out of office?
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09-12-2012, 09:38 AM
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Re: Mark Levin on the Possibility of a Third Party
less disturbing would be satan evangelizing, imo.
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09-12-2012, 10:41 AM
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Re: Mark Levin on the Possibility of a Third Party
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Ah...but deacon, what is it that you dislike about Obamacare that you want repealed so much that you are desperate to vote Obama out of office?
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Obamacare is just one of MANY reasons to vote him out of office. Remember Obamacare is thousands and thousands of pages long. For Romney to say he's in agreement with a couple of provisions doesn't mean he is an Obama clone. There are reasons to pause with Romney. But there are reasons to lie awake night after night with Obama. To many of us the differences are substantive.
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09-12-2012, 10:50 AM
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Re: Mark Levin on the Possibility of a Third Party
But there are many reasons as to why he may turn out to be an Obama clone...and not just because he would like to keep a couple provisions of the Obama care plan.
But...what specifically is it about Obamacare that you dislike? You and a few others were all happy that Romney said he was going to 'get rid' of Obamacare on his first day in office before he flip-flopped again. Even if Romney gets rid of a 'couple of provisions' and keeps the rest...it will still be Obamacare.
While I am concerned about both of them, I don't lie awake at night pondering what America's fate is on either one who may take the office. I am confident that God is going to give to America the leader she deserves. I am also confident that God is going to take care of His children who live on this land regardless of the leader He gives to us.
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09-12-2012, 11:00 AM
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Re: Mark Levin on the Possibility of a Third Party
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But there are many reasons as to why he may turn out to be an Obama clone...and not just because he would like to keep a couple provisions of the Obama care plan.
But...what specifically is it about Obamacare that you dislike? You and a few others were all happy that Romney said he was going to 'get rid' of Obamacare on his first day in office before he flip-flopped again. Even if Romney gets rid of a 'couple of provisions' and keeps the rest...it will still be Obamacare.
While I am concerned about both of them, I don't lie awake at night pondering what America's fate is on either one who may take the office. I am confident that God is going to give to America the leader she deserves. I am also confident that God is going to take care of His children who live on this land regardless of the leader He gives to us.
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Romney is not promising to get rid of a couple of provisions of Obamacare, he stated he liked a couple of provisions. Big difference. There's not enough time nor space to list all the reasons to not like Obamacare, so I'll simply give you this: America cannot afford it! Healthcare needs reforming, including tort reform which OC doesn't include which keeps insurance premiums for hospitals and doctors very very high. But the reform doesn't need to be a big huge federal govt takeover of the healthcare system, which the liberals eventually want to turn into a complete government run system like Europe or Canada. I'm interested in allowing free market ideas work, like the allowance for insurance companies to compete across state lines.
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09-12-2012, 12:21 PM
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Re: Mark Levin on the Possibility of a Third Party
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Romney is not promising to get rid of a couple of provisions of Obamacare, he stated he liked a couple of provisions. Big difference. There's not enough time nor space to list all the reasons to not like Obamacare, so I'll simply give you this: America cannot afford it! Healthcare needs reforming, including tort reform which OC doesn't include which keeps insurance premiums for hospitals and doctors very very high. But the reform doesn't need to be a big huge federal govt takeover of the healthcare system, which the liberals eventually want to turn into a complete government run system like Europe or Canada. I'm interested in allowing free market ideas work, like the allowance for insurance companies to compete across state lines.
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How do you suppose he will enforce the “pre-existing” conditions? You can't “require” covering of pre-existing conditions without a mandate as it would bankrupt the insurance industry.
Mr. “I like mandates” also adds that he would allow children to have policies on their family’s plan “up to whatever age they might like” - Uh, mandate!
And what exactly are his healthcare plans beside, as usual, vague generalities? What if he had a plan and you didn’t like it? Would you primary him in 2016? Fat chance with the Convention power grab.
Levin is a fool if he thinks along the lines of others – “we will hold his feet to the fire.” You can only hold his feet to the fire by holding electoral control – hello!
But, guess what? DUH! Romney and Priebus played Russian roulette, with six bullets, by changing the Committee Rules at Convention, amid the protests and points of order, I might add. That change is effectively gone.
Now, you give me some real clarity as to how and by what mechanism you will be able to accomplish holding his feet to the fire, DB.
Are you going to withhold campaign funds? The SuperPacs have made that irrelevant. Hold his feet to the fire? – nice try, but no cigar.
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