T.D. Jakes, Mr. Obama, and Gay Marriage...

[Bro. Robbins]

In the attached link, you'll read where directly after President Obama announced his feelings regarding gay marriage, that he began doing damage control among those that have been supporters of his in the past within the Black Faith community.

It's been known for some time there are 5 major religious leaders that Obama consults with often, the most prominent of them being Bishop TD Jakes. Many times we've seen them meet, we've been told of their relationship, and the supposed influence that Jakes has on Mr. Obama.

In this article, not only were the 5 brought into conference calls, but others in addition. But in a desire to get comments from those main 5, TD Jakes would not comment on conversations or even his reaction to Obama's new feelings.

So here's my question.... since Jakes is still very influencial within the church world, especially the black church community... do you think that Jakes really needs to comment on Obama's new stance? And what kind of damage will further support for Obama cause for Jakes if it he doesn't denounce the President's new views?

LINK: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/14/us...ef=todayspaper

[HRea]

Originally Posted by Bro. Robbins

In this article, not only were the 5 brought into conference calls, but others in addition. But in a desire to get comments from those main 5, TD Jakes would not comment on conversations or even his reaction to Obama's new feelings.

So here's my question.... since Jakes is still very influencial within the church world, especially the black church community... do you think that Jakes really needs to comment on Obama's new stance? And what kind of damage will further support for Obama cause for Jakes if it he doesn't denounce the President's new views?

Absolutely, Bishop TD Jakes needs to, at the very least, distance himself from this particular announcement. He may still advise President Obama, but, since he has chosen to be included as part of the "spiritual advisory", he needs to make a concerted effort to publicly state his position on gay marriage. In this instance, silence is agreement.

1 John 2:19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by HRea

Absolutely, Bishop TD Jakes needs to, at the very least, distance himself from this particular announcement. He may still advise President Obama, but, since he has chosen to be included as part of the "spiritual advisory", he needs to make a concerted effort to publicly state his position on gay marriage. In this instance, silence is agreement.

1 John 2:19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

silence may not really be agreement but it is perceived to be agreement.

[bbyrd009]

please--the guy has already proclaimed
himself a "Bishop;" he'll prolly be granting
indulgences any second now...

[Bro. Robbins]

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

please--the guy has already proclaimed
himself a "Bishop;" he'll prolly be granting
indulgences any second now...

To my knowledge, Bishop Jakes never proclaimed himself a Bishop, but was placed in that office by the organization he was a part of at that time... and since he does over see multiple congregations, and is considered the covering for multiple pastors, ministers, fellowships... that title is an appropriate one for him.

[Dordrecht]

Of course Mr. Jakes should speak up against Obama supporting same sex marriages.
And so should all other self respecting pastors.
They are suppose to be "watchdogs".

[Cindy]

I don't know his views on same sex marriage. But he was interviewed by Oprah and asked outright if he considers homosexuality as a sin. As was Joel Osteen, also.

[Bro. Robbins]

Originally Posted by Cindy

I don't know his views on same sex marriage. But he was interviewed by Oprah and asked outright if he considers homosexuality as a sin. As was Joel Osteen, also.

I'll have to admit, I don't remember his response to Oprah... but don't you think it sure dictates him to make some kind of statement publicly again since Obama has come out with this new view and it's widely known that TD Jakes is not only a counsel for him... but also a supporter?

I've been quite disappointed with Bishop Jakes in recent years... and if he does not come out quite publicly with a response regarding President Obama and this recent endorsement of sin, I will no longer listen to one Word he says... or writes.

He's already tried to distance himself from the Oneness Apostolic message of his heritage... but won't distance himself from a homosexual marriage endorsing administration.....

[AreYouReady?]

I have to wonder why people expect an immediate statement from TD Jakes? I have to wonder if he is remaining silent on the subject for effect...waiting on people to notice that he is silent so when he does speak, people will pay attention to what he has to say.

Perhaps he is in prayer to the Lord on how to respond to this matter?

Nevertheless, I am of the opinion that politicians make statements to increase their chances of election, not because they actually have these opinions themselves. Politicians have been using the gay community for the votes, a political football, then reneging on their promises for decades now. Just like the abortion issue.

[Cindy]

Did he call any white, asian, hispanic, pastors? Or doesn't he represent all races?