Spiritual Communion

Dedicated Mind · #1 10-18-2011, 09:04 AM

I'm reading Evelyn Underhill's 1911 classic called mysticism. while i don't agree with everything it says so far, i have been inspired to further speculation. she says the divine realm lies deep in our subconscience and the path of the mystic is to use the emotion of love to drive the will to reach altered states of conscience in order to receive this spiritual perception or realm of unity.

i remember vividly being completely conscious when receiving the holy ghost even though the force was coming from deep within my spirit. i felt led to pickup watchman nee's book release of the spirit to see what he says. i believe he teaches brokeness of soul and self denial to release spirit, but will have to reread.

my question to you is, how do we attain communion with the holy spirit in order to hear his voice or receive revelation. is it just prayer, fasting and study/meditation of the word or is there a process, a technique to achieve? can anyone explain this process in detail?

Amanah · #2 10-18-2011, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

I'm reading Evelyn Underhill's 1911 classic called mysticism. while i don't agree with everything it says so far, i have been inspired to further speculation. she says the divine realm lies deep in our subconscience and the path of the mystic is to use the emotion of love to drive the will to reach altered states of conscience in order to receive this spiritual perception or realm of unity.

i remember vividly being completely conscious when receiving the holy ghost even though the force was coming from deep within my spirit. i felt led to pickup watchman nee's book release of the spirit to see what he says. i believe he teaches brokeness of soul and self denial to release spirit, but will have to reread.

my question to you is, how do we attain communion with the holy spirit in order to hear his voice or receive revelation. is it just prayer, fasting and study/meditation of the word or is there a process, a technique to achieve? can anyone explain this process in detail?

the higher aspect of all religion is love.
the lower aspect of all religion is man made structuralism.

this is what I know, but I'm a simple person, not a preacher or of any position.
if you want to hear God's voice, become active in seeking and saving that which was lost. pray and study his word and ask him to lead you to people who need a touch from him. God will speak to you and direct you to people who need him.

Scott Hutchinson · #3 10-18-2011, 12:00 PM

This is the only form Of Spiritual Communion teaching,I've ever heard about.
See N on this statement of faith.
http://www.abofc.org/index.php?optio...about&Itemid=7

mfblume · #4 10-18-2011, 12:08 PM

I believe the Bible lays all of this out. David was someone who had deep communion with God. He constantly craved in his heart to know God more. And when he sinned, he was confronted with his sin, he immediately cried out his blame and confessed it all. Saul, on the other hand, argued and excused his sin when Samuel confronted him.

Moses sought to know God and refused to enter Canaan with an angel after God told him God would not go in but would instead send an angel, in Ex 33. Moses knew God's ways while Israel only saw His acts.

I think the plan is to pray with this desire. To pray it in faith to truly know Him. Phil 3:10 repeats it.

Madame Guyon wrote EXPERIENCING THE DEPTHS OF JESUS CHRIST, and was known as a mystic in the 1600's in France. The catholic church imprisoned her for her relationship with Christ. She she loved Jesus so much she could not pray to anyone else, which was against the catholic tenet to seek Mary. She did some oddball things, but with all she knew she did pretty good!

Check out her autobiography . But "Experiencing the Depths" is an awesome layout of the pathway to communion with God. I highly recommend it. No heretical teachings are in it.

It was originally called A SHORT AND EASY METHOD OF PRAYER: ONLINE HERE: http://www.iinet.com/~passtheword/DI...odofprayer.htm

Amanah · #5 10-18-2011, 12:26 PM

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It was originally called A SHORT AND EASY METHOD OF PRAYER: ONLINE HERE: http://www.iinet.com/~passtheword/DI...odofprayer.htm

This includes passage meditation, which I mentioned to you before DM. It is a good representation of Christian Mysticism.

mfblume · #6 10-18-2011, 01:33 PM

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This includes passage meditation, which I mentioned to you before DM. It is a good representation of Christian Mysticism.

But if you read what she says about meditation she says it is meditating on the scriptures and what the bible has said. Transcendental meditation, which is bad I think, is blanking your mind out and letting anything come to your spirit. I think that opens a person up for evil spirits.

Amanah · #7 10-18-2011, 01:38 PM

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But if you read what she says about meditation she says it is meditating on the scriptures and what the bible has said. Transcendental meditation, which is bad I think, is blanking your mind out and letting anything come to your spirit. I think that opens a person up for evil spirits.

which is what i mean by passage meditation, using a passage of scripture to meditate on

mfblume · #8 10-18-2011, 01:45 PM

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which is what i mean by passage meditation, using a passage of scripture to meditate on

Right. Okay.

Do you have any concerns about that?

Amanah · #9 10-18-2011, 01:52 PM

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Right. Okay.

Do you have any concerns about that?

I think passage meditation is a great way to keep your mind stayed on Christ.
As a man thinks in his heart, so is he.
The battle is in our minds.
Our minds are like untrained monkeys that like to drag us all over the place, to past regrets, to worry about the future.

When I lost my Son, the only way I could fall asleep at night was be reciting scripture in my mind slowly, one verse at a time, letting it sink in and keeping my mind on the verses, and not letting my mind go the the tormenting thoughts.
I would keep bringing my mind back to the word over and over again till I fell asleep.

This is very similar to Eastern passage meditation, your mind isnt blank, its filled with the Word of God.

mfblume · #10 10-18-2011, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Amanah

I think passage meditation is a great way to keep your mind stayed on Christ.
As a man thinks in his heart, so is he.
The battle is in our minds.
Our minds are like untrained monkeys that like to drag us all over the place, to past regrets, to worry about the future.

When I lost my Son, the only way I could fall asleep at night was be reciting scripture in my mind slowly, one verse at a time, letting it sink in and keeping my mind on the verses, and not letting my mind go the the tormenting thoughts.
I would keep bringing my mind back to the word over and over again till I fell asleep.

This is very similar to Eastern passage meditation, your mind isnt blank, its filled with the Word of God.

Wow. Awesome, sister!