Divine revelation ?

[Arphaxad]

Does all knowledge we get about God come from divine revelation? If so than how can He hold someone accountable for not obeying the plan of salvation if it was never revealed to them by God? If not than wouldn't that mean we're using our own reasoning to explain God?


ARPH

[rrford]

Originally Posted by Arphaxad

Does all knowledge we get about God come from divine revelation? If so than how can He hold someone accountable for not
ARPH

No.

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Arphaxad

Does all knowledge we get about God come from divine revelation? If so than how can He hold someone accountable for not obeying the plan of salvation if it was never revealed to them by God? If not than wouldn't that mean we're using our own reasoning to explain God?


ARPH

This reminds me of a question I asked on NFCF, "Does God give every human being an equal opportunity to hear and obey the gospel in this life?" If we are only mildly observant the answer has to be, NO. At least not in the sense that OPs understand the gospel.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by crakjak

This reminds me of a question I asked on NFCF, "Does God give every human being an equal opportunity to hear and obey the gospel in this life?" If we are only mildly observant the answer has to be, NO. At least not in the sense that OPs understand the gospel.

Nor in the sense as non OPs understand it

Without God given ability, we would not know our left hand from our right. All divine knowledge and wisdom comes from HIM, as does the natural ability to perceive.

He will "withold no good thing to them who walk uprightly." That includes the knowledge of Him. God continually works to bring all men to the saving knowledge of himself in mysterious ways that we cannot comprehend.

If the eyes of understanding are blind, being a veil upon the heart, it is because of rejection from the heart of some more fundamental understanding that would have led anyone to the greater understanding. It is called "walking in the light." It is called going on from "glory to glory."

"The path of the just is as a shining light that shineth more and more unto the perfect day."

[Pastor Keith]

Originally Posted by Arphaxad

Does all knowledge we get about God come from divine revelation? If so than how can He hold someone accountable for not obeying the plan of salvation if it was never revealed to them by God? If not than wouldn't that mean we're using our own reasoning to explain God?


ARPH

People will be lost because of their sins, and not obeying what truth God has revealed to them already.

Read Romans 1:18-20

18The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Arphaxad

Does all knowledge we get about God come from divine revelation? If so than how can He hold someone accountable for not obeying the plan of salvation if it was never revealed to them by God? If not than wouldn't that mean we're using our own reasoning to explain God?


ARPH

Paul confronts the "fairness issue".

14: What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.
15: For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
16: So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
17: For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.
18: Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.
19: Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?
20: Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
21: Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? Rom. 9:14-21

He counters by saying it would not be fair TO GOD AS THE POTTER to not be able to do what HE WANTS with the clay.

[Sister Alvear]

Some of these "divine revelation and a brighter light shinning" is no more than someone wanting us to think they are more spiritual than others...
His word is FOREVEr settled in heaven...that does not mean we cannot have a clearer understanding but all these divine revelations...I stay away from..

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

Some of these "divine revelation and a brighter light shinning" is no more than someone wanting us to think they are more spiritual than others...
His word is FOREVEr settled in heaven...that does not mean we cannot have a clearer understanding but all these divine revelations...I stay away from..

Sister, a lot of "divine revelation" so called, are nothing but deceptions from hell. Of course, you would not want to accept THAT.

But the Word itself means "The unveiling." Since Jesus is the Word of God, why would you not want Him (the Word) to be divinely REVEALED to you?

Paul prayed in Epesians that the eyes of our understanding would be opened. That is a divne operation.

[Sister Alvear]

I accept a divine revelation from God but what I meant so many so called divine revelations appear and lead people into false doctrine.