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Old 04-19-2011, 07:53 AM
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What goes on in the mind of a backslider?

My heart is so heavy watching someone very near and dear to me backslide. When a person has turned their back on God, they also turn their back on people living for God. They make excuses why it is okay for them to not follow the church, pastor or God's word anymore, because they have a 'reason'! They do things they would never have thought about doing before, and then act like nothing is wrong with it now! I think it has come to the point where I can only pray for God's will and then for myself because the pain of watching this unfold, is tearing me apart. Is there anyone that has backslid, that has came back to God, that can give me an insight to how they thought, like does my loved one really think I am the enemy now, and does my loved one really believe their actions are okay now?
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Old 04-19-2011, 08:01 AM
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Re: What goes on in the mind of a backslider?

Hmm, when I first read this thread topic, I thought "I am not backslid" and passed it up. And then it dawned on me that people think I am backslid and maybe I should respond.

There are two types of "backsliders"....those who leave out of confusion and do anything they feel like because they don't care. And those who care a lot, but have had a paradigm shift and see things differently. If your dear person is of the second type, you should have a long conversation and listen. If they are of the first sort, you should pray.....
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Hmm, when I first read this thread topic, I thought "I am not backslid" and passed it up. And then it dawned on me that people think I am backslid and maybe I should respond.

There are two types of "backsliders"....those who leave out of confusion and do anything they feel like because they don't care. And those who care a lot, but have had a paradigm shift and see things differently. If your dear person is of the second type, you should have a long conversation and listen. If they are of the first sort, you should pray.....
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Hmm, when I first read this thread topic, I thought "I am not backslid" and passed it up. And then it dawned on me that people think I am backslid and maybe I should respond.

There are two types of "backsliders"....those who leave out of confusion and do anything they feel like because they don't care. And those who care a lot, but have had a paradigm shift and see things differently. If your dear person is of the second type, you should have a long conversation and listen. If they are of the first sort, you should pray.....
Ahem, he is asking for input from backsliders who came back to God!
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Re: What goes on in the mind of a backslider?

Is that code for "believes like he does"?
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Ahem, he is asking for input from backsliders who came back to God!
Came back to God is Pentecostalese for doing things they way folks want you to so you can feel accepted into the society once again.

I think ILG's commentary is about as good as you're going to get on this subject. Everybody has these crazy opinions about people who "backslide" when it can sometimes be the crazy opinions themselves that make one feel the need to separate themselves from that group.

This limits the input the "backslider" will receive in the future and further facilitates what people "already expected would happen".

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"Yep... just like I thought. They never had it in them anyway. Sad really."
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Came back to God is Pentecostalese for doing things they way folks want you to so you can feel accepted into the society once again.

I think ILG's commentary is about as good as you're going to get on this subject. Everybody has these crazy opinions about people who "backslide" when it can sometimes be the crazy opinions themselves that make one feel the need to separate themselves from that group.

This limits the input the "backslider" will receive in the future and further facilitates what people "already expected would happen".

Something like...
"Yep... just like I thought. They never had it in them anyway. Sad really."
Which came first, the chicken or the egg? Yep, you hit it.
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Which came first, the chicken or the egg? Yep, you hit it.
Yep. And one, apparently, has to have been there to understand. I remember the days of my church attending innocence. I remember the way I thought and the judgments I had for people. Remembering those days I can see the differences in my thinking then and now. I can see the understanding I have now and I can see how going through what I've been through has made me more adept at ministering to those who have been burned.

Those who have never been burned... and I mean REALLY burned... not marginally inconvenienced... talk a language I recognize. I can read or hear in the words that there is no concept of what it's like after you've taken the red pill.

Those words that used to "make it all better" don't work anymore. There is healing. That is for sure. But they don't come through catch phrases anymore. Things now require real answers and what one used to accept because someone said so now requires proof.

I think that I am a more stable person this side of the pain. I have recovered nicely for the most part and the only times I ever consider that it was nicer before my eyes were opened is when the rejection of those who don't yet understand and who walk in the world of catch phrases and wonderful blind trust frustrates me. I then wonder... if I were blind again... could I be happy?

And... I guess I might if I could stop knowing what I know now and lose my memory of it. But don't ever let me know what I've learned because I'll want to come back here.

Some may read this and say... what a hijack. But... my friend... while I'm not a backslider... I'm very busy in a church just like always. But I understand their thinking to the point I don't have to start threads that ask what they are thinking. My rambling above IS what goes through the mind of a backslider. And those who need to ask what goes through their mind (with no disrespect intended for the thread author) really don't have what it takes to minister to them and will probably do more damage than good.

If you haven't been there you can't understand the change in their mindset and the two of you operate on two totally different wave lengths now and there is no repairing it.

If they are to "return" to anything it will be through intensive study and a full realization that cannot be delivered with pentecostalisms like they used to. They have to see it and see it well and few people are equipped well enough to show it to them unless they've "been there, done that".

If anyone would ever spend the time to truly help a "backslider" (and be willing to drop everything they can't back up) then you'd find that a restored "backslider" is one amazing individual and can turn their world upside down. I'd love to have a whole church of "backsliders". We would have some wonderful times of study in the Word. One word of caution though... the timid need not attend.

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I appreciate what you wrote D4T. I can tell you do understand (for the most part). And, it is true, that when the catch phrases don't work anymore, you can see who has truly grappled with the questions and who just wants people to line up so they don't have to ask them.....
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I appreciate what you wrote D4T. I can tell you do understand (for the most part). And, it is true, that when the catch phrases don't work anymore, you can see who has truly grappled with the questions and who just wants people to line up so they don't have to ask them.....
Yes ma'am.

And I fully accept your "for the most part" disclaimer. I've learned a lot. But I've also learned that we all travel different paths and we don't learn the same set of answers. That was "back in the day" when everyone had an identical answer for everything.
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