Rush Limbaugh Told Us So

[deacon blues]

I remember feeling hopeless after the "Hope and Change" campaign and electoral victory of Barak Obama and the Democrats in 2008. It seemed pretty obvious to me this president was not only a liberal but a liberal of the most extreme kind. His voting record, his public statements, quotes from his books, his associations and friendships, along with his campaign promises made it very clear to me his presidency would introduce dangerous policies for our nation at a very vulnerable time. McCain didn't excite me, but I knew his governance would be a far cry better than anything BO would do.

So there I was all broken hearted when good ole Rush Limbaugh prognosticated what Obama and a Democrat-led Congress would do: overreach. As he began to lay out the scenario of how Democrats historically react to Election Day victories I remember thinking "you're probably right, Rush" and actually felt like there was a ray of hope at the end of a dark, caverous tunnel.

Rush sure knows how the enemy thinks. Healthcare, cap and trade, stimulus, tax hikes, etc. Have all been evidence that Obama, Pelosi and Reid misread the mandate of November 2008 and they did just what Rush thought: their political ideology would force them to inact legislation that the electorate didn't want and that America didn't need. What Americans wanted was the economy fixed. What we got was rising unemployment, a devalued dollar, low consumer confidence, a deficit that has reached historic portions, and a debt that will take generations to pay off, if we ever do.

History supports that overreach for Democrats is self-defeating. Obama's overreaching is testimony to what 44 years can do to a party's memory.

In the 1966 elections Democrats lost 3 Senate and 47 House seats, ending two years of liberal control that had followed 28 years of Republican and/or conservative Democrat dominance.

In 1938, 5 years into the New Deal, the public was weary of Washington's overreach. Voters reeacted against FDR's attempt to ?pack? the Supreme Court by enlarging it and his related attempt to purge conservative Democrats from Congress. After 1938, Republicans and conservative Democrats prevented a durable liberal legislative majority, until the 1964 anti-Goldwater landslide. Johnson carried 44 states, Democrats gained 2 Senate and 38 House seats, and overreach returned in the form of the Great Society agenda. Since 1966, liberal overreaching has been difficult. After November, it will be impossible, for many years.

For Obama, the worst result next month might be for Democrats to retain control of both houses of Congress. If they do, their majorities will be small. Their remaining moderates will be more resistant to the liberal leadership: The moderates will have survived not because of, but in spite of, those leaders. Today, if you see Obama in a political ad, you are almost certainly watching a Republican ad. A recent NBC/Wall Street Journal poll shows that more than twice as many people view House Speaker Nancy Pelosi negatively (50%) than positively (22%). If Democrats retain control of Congress, Obama will seek re-election while being perceived as responsible for everything in Washington, where everything is perceived to be dysfunctional. And anti-Washington fever may be worse than it is today, because the 2010 elections will not seem to have changed very much.

If Democrats lose both houses, it will be read as a rejection of Obama. If they lose neither, he will be politically crippled, incapable of getting a rubber stamp from Congress. So, if Democrats lose big, he loses big. If they lose smaller, he loses.

I think back to listening to Rush in the afterglow of Obama's electoral victory and his prediction of overreach. He was right. And I'm glad.

[coadie]

Rush gave an economic forecast for the Obama regime. It was very bleak. It was also accurate.
All the palace soothsayers, sorcerors and economists were wrong and the slide accelerated downward.
Crooks place a premium on loyalty. It is more important for an economist to regurgitate Obama's slogans and talking points than announce truth.

When the Obama team said unemployment won't rise above 8%, Dems believed it, but Repubs. didn't. Who was right?

Can twisp respond to this with facts? Data?

Republicans were right. Obama actually said that if we didn't pass the stimulus bill that unemployment would rise about 8%. So not only was he wrong, but his mistake will cost us over $1Trillion dollars.

[Dedicated Mind]

where are the Republican ideas to handle the deficit? more tax cuts for the rich? They have no new ideas. Republicans had 10 years of control under W. and they did nothing. They don't deserve another chance.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

where are the Republican ideas to handle the deficit? more tax cuts for the rich? They have no new ideas. Republicans had 10 years of control under W. and they did nothing. They don't deserve another chance.

Typical Dem overdosed on Koolaid. W was in office 8 years, not 10.

The budget comes from congress. Under W the Dems controlled the last 2 years.
We have great ideas. They worked for Reagan and will work today.

[Dedicated Mind]

Originally Posted by coadie

Typical Dem overdosed on Koolaid. W was in office 8 years, not 10.

The budget comes from congress. Under W the Dems controlled the last 2 years.
We have great ideas. They worked for Reagan and will work today.

what did the republicans do for the economy when they controlled the congress and the presidency for 6 years? Nothing but start unpaid wars and unpaid for tax breaks.

what are the reagan ideas? can you list them please?

[deacon blues]

Dedicated Mind, how about Bush inheriting a recession that started in Clinton's final year, March 2000 and with tax cuts FOR EVERYBODY sustained 52 continuous months of economic growth. It is historic fact that every time government cuts taxes, economic growth results, tax revenues increase because of the economic activity, unemployment goes down and consumer confidence rises. The reason why the ideas seem "not new" is because you don't need new ideas to make capitalism work. Capitalism is built on supply and demand principles. Tax people at any level and you artificially interfere with the laws of economics and you screwe up the natural ebbs and flows of capitalism.

The Dems don't have new ideas either. They always propose government fabricated jobs, infrastructure projects, artificial stimulus. History proves that government interference with the economy prolongs recessions and depressions and doesn't create long term stability.

I am not rich, neber have been rich, but my taxes went down during the Bush years versus the Clinton years. My $1,000 per child tax credit came courtesy of Bush and the GOP, not the Dems, who want to see tax cuts expire. Middle class people have estates too when they die. They will have to give 55% of their estates to the government syarting next year.

"Tax cuts for the rich" is a lie. Tax cuts were given to EVERYONE who paid taxes under Bush. Dems hate tax cuts. They love Big Government. They want to steal from the haves and give it to the have nots and spend it wildly on things that are ridiculous.

How about that $18 million of stimulus that went to dead people and prisoners, DM? Do you think BO, Pelosi and Reid deserve to remain in power with such irresponsible behavior? If it aint broke don't fix it. If its broke and it aint gettin fixed, do something different to change why it aint gettin fixed. You all have held the reins of power for nearly two years and you can't name one improvement to the economy. The results are in and BO's vision. And the Dem's vision for America has failed.

Its time to get back to what works: conservative fiscal policies.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

what did the republicans do for the economy when they controlled the congress and the presidency for 6 years? Nothing but start unpaid wars and unpaid for tax breaks.

what are the reagan ideas? can you list them please?

Now it is 6 years instead of 10?

Dedicated Mind Re: Rush Limbaugh Told Us So

where are the Republican ideas to handle the deficit? more tax cuts for the rich? They have no new ideas. Republicans had 10 years of control under W. and they did nothing. They don't deserve another chance.

So the 10 years was not true? Did you know Bush was in office only 8 years?

George Bush had 52 consecutive months of employment growth during his tenure.
Most Dems do not realize he inherited a dot.com bust 2 months into office. The dot com bubble was a Clinton deal.

Obama claims to be so awesome and he can't get employment growth when we take out census hiring.

Reagan tax cuts fueled economic growth.

Dedicated mind, do you know what tax cuts are?
I am convinced you can't understand how tax cuts contribute to growth in GDP. They cover that in economics classes.