Prop 8 overruled by gay judge!

Socialite · #1 08-04-2010, 05:30 PM

Breaking news: California's Proposition 8, passed by the majority of California voters has been overturned as "unconstitutional."

Couple points and thoughts:

1) Is it ever okay for the State to overrule the will of the people? This seems to be a major argument. Think about slavery, civil rights, etc.

2) Can believers have diversity in political and legal opinion and hold unity in and opinion of these matters at a faith level?

3) Can we separate the religious nature of marriage from the legal one?

4) All the implications many feared -- how can those be protected?

mfblume · #2 08-04-2010, 05:35 PM

Communism.

Socialite · #3 08-04-2010, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mfblume

Communism.

Explain.

mfblume · #4 08-04-2010, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Socialite

Explain.

People cannot choose what goes on.

geekette · #5 08-04-2010, 05:43 PM

This guy is no raving liberal even if he is gay. He was originally nominated to the bench by President Reagan but his nomination was held up for the following:

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Walker's original nomination to the bench by Ronald Reagan in 1987 stalled in the Senate Judiciary Committee because of controversy over his representation of the United States Olympic Committee in a lawsuit that prohibited the use of the title "Gay Olympics".[3] Two dozen House Democrats, led by Rep. Nancy Pelosi of San Francisco, opposed his nomination because of his alleged "insensitivity" to gays and the poor. Years later, the San Francisco Chronicle noted the irony of this opposition due to Walker's sexual orientation.[4]

He was renominated to the bench under President George Herbert Walker Bush in 1989 and confirmed. He's currently the Chief Judge of the Northern District of California.

geekette · #6 08-04-2010, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mfblume

Communism.

Communism?

According to my legal buddies, Judge Walker never met a rich person he didn't favor in his court opinions. He was described to me as a staunch Libertarian, which is rather the opposite of communism, I think.

Socialite · #7 08-04-2010, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mfblume

People cannot choose what goes on.

Not understanding what you're saying.

Socialite · #8 08-04-2010, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by geekette

Communism?

According to my legal buddies, Judge Walker never met a rich person he didn't favor in his court opinions. He was described to me as a staunch Libertarian, which is rather the opposite of communism, I think.

Yeah, many conservative Libertarians opposed Prop 8.

Baron1710 · #9 08-04-2010, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Socialite

Yeah, many conservative Libertarians opposed Prop 8.

I don't care what his orientation is making this an equal protection claim is opening the door to all kinds of nonsense. Oh you wanna marry two men? Go for it. You wanna marry two goats...equal protection. Equal protection...what a joke.

Socialite · #10 08-04-2010, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710

I don't care what his orientation is making this an equal protection claim is opening the door to all kinds of nonsense. Oh you wanna marry two men? Go for it. You wanna marry two goats...equal protection. Equal protection...what a joke.

How do you think the Plaintiff's attorneys and/or the judge would response to that?

The two goats analogy is simple, since they don't have even basic human rights, nor would they ever request to be married

However, the polygamy argument certainly should get fired up again over this.