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A heavenly language?
I have heard this term all my life. I have undertood it to be in defense of the fact that you cannot understand tongues, therefore its a heavenly language.
Where is the scripture that supports that. On the day of Pentecost were they not understood?
ON the other side of that: as a child in Slidell La, I remember a ladt rec' the HG and the Pastor a former missionary to FRANCE understanding what she was saying.
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He that speaketh in an unknown tongue, speaketh not unto man but unto God. Sounds somewhat heavenly to me.
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04-26-2007, 08:04 AM
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He that speaketh in an unknown tongue, speaketh not unto man but unto God. Sounds somewhat heavenly to me.
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I believe this, the unknown tongue, is the native tongue of the Kingdom, of those born "again" as new creatures!
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04-26-2007, 08:06 AM
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I have heard this term all my life. I have undertood it to be in defense of the fact that you cannot understand tongues, therefore its a heavenly language.
Where is the scripture that supports that. On the day of Pentecost were they not understood?
ON the other side of that: as a child in Slidell La, I remember a ladt rec' the HG and the Pastor a former missionary to FRANCE understanding what she was saying.
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I do think the tongues in Acts are other languages they had not learned however Paul does speak of the tongues of angels in 1Cor.13.
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04-26-2007, 08:09 AM
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He that speaketh in an unknown tongue, speaketh not unto man but unto God. Sounds somewhat heavenly to me.
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Thanks Bro for the input but an unknown tongue is what they spoke in Acts. It was unknown to them.
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04-26-2007, 08:10 AM
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Thanks Bro for the input but an unknown tongue is what they spoke in Acts. It was unknown to them.
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Actually it was "other" tongues in Acts. The tongues they spoke in were unknown to the speaker but certainly not unknown to the hearers. Thus, other tongues is more appropriate... other than what they knew.
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04-26-2007, 08:11 AM
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Also , the initial infilling in ACTs never really talks of some Heavenly language.
They understood.
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Thanks Bro for the input but an unknown tongue is what they spoke in Acts. It was unknown to them.
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Yes. While I understand there are different kinds of tongues, I am not so sure about the teaching that there are different classifications.
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04-26-2007, 08:17 AM
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Yes. While I understand there are different kinds of tongues, I am not so sure about the teaching that there are different classifications.
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Let me get to the point. I'm not sure about classifications either. My thing is why were they understood on the Day of Pentecost but to my knowledge never in this day and age?
Of course you do have a select few, usually the same 1 or 2, that interpret during the gifts of the spirit but never in the initial reception.
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Would not "3000" at least deserve an honorable mention? Meaning since the infilling of the 120 was such a miracle then why wouldn't 3000 at least been spoken of as far as speaking in tongues?
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