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04-17-2007, 08:02 AM
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Hello AFF!
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Why do folks have a silly notion about being UPC only if licenced?
If you are only UPCI by holding a Licence: then folks can tell the Pastor to stick the rules and standards in his back pocket with his card.
This notion that one was never UPCI because they were never a card holder is stupid.
It really shows the worth of saints to Pastors.
Us and them card holders.
Welcome to the Good old boys club.
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04-17-2007, 08:04 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Shreveport, LA
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*barfs up breakfast*
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- And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one. [Zechariah 14:9]
- Ignorance of the Identity of the One True God is not a valid reason to practice idolatry.
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04-17-2007, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by COOPER
If you are only UPCI by holding a Licence: then folks can tell the Pastor to stick the rules and standards in his back pocket with his card.
This notion that one was never UPCI because they were never a card holder is stupid.
It really shows the worth of saints to Pastors.
Us and them card holders.
Welcome to the Good old boys club.
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What brought this on?????
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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04-17-2007, 08:11 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
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Him awakening from sleep, I'd guess. 
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- And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one. [Zechariah 14:9]
- Ignorance of the Identity of the One True God is not a valid reason to practice idolatry.
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04-17-2007, 08:13 AM
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Hello AFF!
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
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Mr. Trevor the Rhino.
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Originally Posted by Trouvere
.When were you licensed with the UPC?
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Originally Posted by COOPER
Never licensed.  |
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Originally Posted by Trouvere
Then you were never UPC so how can you be EX_UPC?
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04-17-2007, 08:18 AM
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Non-Resident Redneck
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by COOPER
If you are only UPCI by holding a Licence: then folks can tell the Pastor to stick the rules and standards in his back pocket with his card.
This notion that one was never UPCI because they were never a card holder is stupid.
It really shows the worth of saints to Pastors.
Us and them card holders.
Welcome to the Good old boys club.
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Coop, I really am having a hard time understanding exactly what you are getting at here.
Please elaborate.
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04-17-2007, 08:20 AM
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Registered Member
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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Originally Posted by Coonskinner
Coop, I really am having a hard time understanding exactly what you are getting at here.
Please elaborate.
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Would this be something new????????????????????????/ 
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04-17-2007, 08:20 AM
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Not that I think this thread has any validity, but in defense of Coop and as a point of information to Trouvere, it has been posted in another thread that non-ministry members of an "Affiliated" UPC are considered non-voting members of the UPCI.
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04-17-2007, 08:21 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by COOPER
If you are only UPCI by holding a Licence: then folks can tell the Pastor to stick the rules and standards in his back pocket with his card.
This notion that one was never UPCI because they were never a card holder is stupid.
It really shows the worth of saints to Pastors.
Us and them card holders.
Welcome to the Good old boys club.
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What does that have to do with the "worth of saints to Pastors?"
I attend a UPCI church, and when asked, I tell folks that I attend a UPC church, but if I'm asked what I AM, I say "Apostolic" or "Pentecostal."
I don't really get how that's insulting to anyone....
Coop, you seem to try to find an insult in everything that is said. You really, really need to find something else to focus on. Go outside and play with your kids or go fishing or something.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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04-17-2007, 08:27 AM
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Strange in a Strange Land...
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: The Island
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Quote:
Originally Posted by COOPER
If you are only UPCI by holding a Licence: then folks can tell the Pastor to stick the rules and standards in his back pocket with his card.
This notion that one was never UPCI because they were never a card holder is stupid.
It really shows the worth of saints to Pastors.
Us and them card holders.
Welcome to the Good old boys club.
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Coop, are you aware that there are some of the churches that are in the UPCI that are UPCI affiliated? In case you did not know that it only means that reguardless of what the Pastor does the district and general boards  can remove, select pastors for this assembly. There are alot out there that are not affiliated to the organization. Those can do whatever. But the Pastor may be asked to leave the organization it he does something out of bylaws.
The main thing is that in those unaffiliated ones the pastors act as if they are so they are tougher on the standards and such. IMO. I have been a few different UPCI churches over the past years, from state to state. Boils down to another way for the pastor and the organization to have a grip on the saints. The crazy thing is if the Pastor does what both boards want then that Pastor is pretty much set in place for a long time, unless he chooses to leave.
People could tell the pastor to keep the standards to himself, but with the seasoned saints and people that have heard for years, "obey them that have rule over you..." will likely corner the newbies and try to "cult"urize them. I am not saying the UPCI is a cult, not even close to saying that, but how some of the people act about this stuff is cultish. Conform or else. I know of an instance where on a Sunday night service a lady the HG and three days later on Wednesday Sis. Seaoned Saints told her, "now you need to not cut your hair and wearing pants,shorts, etc. that is not appealing to God. And it is sin." That made the lady very confused and only held on for a couple months then she left, never saw her again. That is sick.
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