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Old 07-16-2009, 11:54 AM
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What did people do before Bibles were available?

I've been thinking about this lately. The Bible being easily attainable by every person with a checkbook is a fairly recent development. For much of history, your average person did not have access to the written word of God.

What did those people do? How did they know God's plan and desires? They had to depend upon their leadership to proclaim the word of God to them. What if the leadership was wrong? They had no way of finding out.

Now, we insist that teaching line up to the word of God. We read it for ourselves. If the teaching isn't in the Bible, we can see that. But what if we didn't HAVE a Bible??

What about the time period after The Trinity and baptism in the titles became the Christian norm? How could your average person know that this wasn't the biblical method?

Many, many people in the past could not even read. How were these people to know if they were being told correctly? What if they were NOT told correctly? Were they doomed to hell because they could not read?

Why did God allow such a long time period to exist when the common man had no access to the Bible?
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Re: What did people do before Bibles were availabl

Simple. God would send an Apostolic Pentecostal preacher to anyone that had a genuine desire to find God, who would then teach them the way. Same as today.
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Re: What did people do before Bibles were availabl

But seriously, I believe that is the actual answer from some of those in the "our way or the highway" camp. It's been posted here on AFF in the context of modern times, for people who don't have access to Bibles or churches etc. Stands to reason that it's the way they say it would work all through history, since Pentecost. I think.
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God judges the heart not the sacrament. As long as they were repentant of sin, faithful from committing sin, water baptized, and filled with the Holy Ghost, they were saved.

Now, there are many down through history baptized in the Trinitarian formula. If any of these cried out sincerely to Jesus from the heart, God remitted their sin (even if traditional clouded their understanding of God's nature). It really doesn't amount to a hill of beans what some priest muttered over them... God judges the heart and they were seeking to obey. Many will say, but most didn't get the Holy Ghost! Really? Many had deep spiritual experience termed by the Catholic church as ecstacy. Experiences wherein they recieved visions, wept with tears and groaning, stammered their lips - perhaps not "speaking in tongues" like we would do it - simply because they didn't know that this is what was happening to them. These were saved. The gates fo hell and human tradition never triumphed over God's grace.
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Yep, he did that. Christopher Columbus for example....
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I've been thinking about this lately. The Bible being easily attainable by every person with a checkbook is a fairly recent development. For much of history, your average person did not have access to the written word of God.

What did those people do? How did they know God's plan and desires? They had to depend upon their leadership to proclaim the word of God to them. What if the leadership was wrong? They had no way of finding out.

Now, we insist that teaching line up to the word of God. We read it for ourselves. If the teaching isn't in the Bible, we can see that. But what if we didn't HAVE a Bible??

What about the time period after The Trinity and baptism in the titles became the Christian norm? How could your average person know that this wasn't the biblical method?

Many, many people in the past could not even read. How were these people to know if they were being told correctly? What if they were NOT told correctly? Were they doomed to hell because they could not read?

Why did God allow such a long time period to exist when the common man had no access to the Bible?

I really do not want to sound condescending at all. Read the New testament. All those people only had access to hearing an occasional OT schroll being read. None of the writers of the NT had a Gideon NT from school. So different folks in the NT heard what was written as it was spoken. Acts 2 If the people heard Peter, that is all they heard until someone else repeated something they heard.
The printing press was invented for the sole purpose of duplicating the bible. I have 2 relatives that have translated the bible into different languages. several languages were not written. So they took sounds and converted them to letters and taught reading. Until then all they had was orally presented scripture. Catholics had it in Latin. So they heard the latin and were told what the latin meant. In the last6 Century they were allowed to have an english or translated version. At one point some men died for translating the catholic Latin version from Latin.
I can also use them as an example of drift or migration in doctrine if it is transferred via oral repitition.
I will half way sorta answer one of your questions. If we use the word "Hear" it has more profund emphasis to the illerate since that is all they have. I sometimes teach home bible studies and substitute the word "obey" for the word Hearing. If you do not obey the bible, that goes back to a lack of hearing or listening.

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Wrong question. Why did MAN so long disobey Luke 24:47 and not deliberately go forth and teach repentence and remission of sins. From the moment he left the tomb HE "allowed" spreading the word. It is man that felt conviction and man that didn't witness door to door.

God called me. One lady I witnessed to had known I was teaching a bible study next door. I followed up 2 times to teach her and she actually came to church a few times after her mother died. I didn't follow up one or 2 more times and I didn't pray enough for her and she died also. Lack of fervor or zeal on my part in no way indicates a short comeing on her part of God's part for that matter. I had another bible study in a dificult home situation. I gave up after a few cancellations. I know her husband was lurking and listening around the corner in a bedroom. He died last summer. I gave up too soon.
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