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04-02-2007, 11:31 AM
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The Battle of the Mudites and Anti-Mudites
Two men met on the street one day. Within minutes they discovered they both lived in the same neighborhood and Jesus had healed them both of blindness. One said, "It's great that Jesus takes spit and dirt to make mud, which somehow heals the eyes after being washed!"
"Mud?" the other man asked. "Jesus doesn't need mud to heal. He just speaks and blind eyes are opened."
"I think you're mistaken", insisted the first man. "He always uses mud."
"You're the one who's mistaken. He didn't use mud on me and I can see just fine, thank you."
What began as a great discovery soon became a great argument. This squabble continued to escalate until the first man finally said, "If Jesus didn't use mud to open your eyes, then I can't and won't fellowship with you. Mud for healing is one of my personal convictions and you are denying its necessity."
The man turned and walked away briskly. Soon he gathered a few of his neighbors together in his home. They were men and women who had been healed of blindness by Jesus' mud. They denied anyone who was "healed" by other means because any other kind of "healing" was questionable and temporary at best. This group became known as Mudites.
Meanwhile, another group formed in the same neighborhood. It was made up of people who's eyes were opened by Jesus' words alone. They encouraged their neighbors who were healed in this way to join their group and firmly reject the notion that mud was necessary for healing. They became known as Anti-Mudites.
Though they both multiplied in number, these two groups continued their rivalry for several decades; in fact the contention took over the whole neighborhood. They each shed many tears, spent many dollars, and exhausted themselves in the attempts of convincing their ignorant subordinates of their insufficiencies. This conflict continued to consume the neighborhood, while the rest of the city groped in blindness, knowing nothing at all about Jesus.
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04-02-2007, 11:40 AM
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Which camp are you in?
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04-02-2007, 11:42 AM
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Still Figuring It Out.
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A sad, but true, depiction of our day.
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04-02-2007, 11:46 AM
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Clear as mud to me!
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04-02-2007, 11:48 AM
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Psalms 132:1
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The Mudites won because they were progressive and went on TV.
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04-02-2007, 11:50 AM
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However I do commend you on your ingenuity.
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04-02-2007, 11:52 AM
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Elder, I believe he does have a point-as pertains to healing.
As pertains to fundamental doctrines. Some have very strongly held views and feel they could not compromise.
JMHO
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04-02-2007, 12:13 PM
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but made himself of no reputation
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
Two men met on the street one day. Within minutes they discovered they both lived in the same neighborhood and Jesus had healed them both of blindness. One said, "It's great that Jesus takes spit and dirt to make mud, which somehow heals the eyes after being washed!"
"Mud?" the other man asked. "Jesus doesn't need mud to heal. He just speaks and blind eyes are opened."
"I think you're mistaken", insisted the first man. "He always uses mud."
"You're the one who's mistaken. He didn't use mud on me and I can see just fine, thank you."
What began as a great discovery soon became a great argument. This squabble continued to escalate until the first man finally said, "If Jesus didn't use mud to open your eyes, then I can't and won't fellowship with you. Mud for healing is one of my personal convictions and you are denying its necessity."
The man turned and walked away briskly. Soon he gathered a few of his neighbors together in his home. They were men and women who had been healed of blindness by Jesus' mud. They denied anyone who was "healed" by other means because any other kind of "healing" was questionable and temporary at best. This group became known as Mudites.
Meanwhile, another group formed in the same neighborhood. It was made up of people who's eyes were opened by Jesus' words alone. They encouraged their neighbors who were healed in this way to join their group and firmly reject the notion that mud was necessary for healing. They became known as Anti-Mudites.
Though they both multiplied in number, these two groups continued their rivalry for several decades; in fact the contention took over the whole neighborhood. They each shed many tears, spent many dollars, and exhausted themselves in the attempts of convincing their ignorant subordinates of their insufficiencies. This conflict continued to consume the neighborhood, while the rest of the city groped in blindness, knowing nothing at all about Jesus.
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PP,
would you include the scriptural witness of water baptism in the actions that could be represented by your well-crafted story setting?
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04-02-2007, 12:25 PM
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PP,
would you include the scriptural witness of water baptism in the actions that could be represented by your well-crafted story setting?
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The story is not my own. You may find it in the Youth Division publication titled "Basic".
You must admit that this is the SOP of Apostolics. We tend to fellowship based on our personal convictions. Water baptism is not a personal conviction, it is a scriptural imperative.
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04-02-2007, 12:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
The story is not my own. You may find it in the Youth Division publication titled "Basic".
You must admit that this is the SOP of Apostolics. We tend to fellowship based on our personal convictions. Water baptism is not a personal conviction, it is a scriptural imperative.
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thank you for replying and sharing your POV concerning the specific aspect of water baptism.
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