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11-17-2008, 09:41 AM
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A Black Woman's Regret
I am a Black female Christian. I voted for Barak Obama...now what?
For as long as I can remember, we (Blacks) have been more or less 'an accursed thing.' White Christians early on took Scripture out of context, interpreting that as decendants of Ham we were cursed. Despite the numerous amendments and proposed amendments to the Constitution, the one thing that has not been amended or even taken into consideration for amendment is that Blacks are defined as less than human. That has been interwoven into the fabric of America, and whether anyone other than Blacks are willing to admit it, that mindset still exists among far too many. I personally experienced the era of separate water fountains, restrooms, entrances (if we were permitted to enter at all), schools, hospitals and etc. We fought in a war with Whites, but were not allowed among them.
One experiences no trouble finding on the internet seeing research article after research article, claiming Blacks are less intelligent than their White counterparts. During the Michael Vick trial a certain Republican Congressman declared that the acts against the dogs that were sanctioned/committed by Michael Vick were dispicable and unconscionable. That same Congressman was at one time a charter member of the KKK, and strangely enough had no problem with the gross and unconscionable acts committed against Blacks--acts that far surpassed those committed against dogs. But, again this is the mindset woven into the fabric of America. We've been enslaved, sold like property, had our families ripped apart and anything else one can imagine. Today, we continue to be racially profiled, stereotyped, suffer blatant disparaties when compared to our White counterparts, and are still grossly discriminated against. I, like many Black Christians, took those things into consideration.
For me, it was painful knowing that despite all we'd endured as a people, the only chance we'd ever had at seeing ourselves as 'just as good' as anyone else was still something bad. Why? Because Barak Obama is a Black man. Why does the prophecied/spoken destruction and devastation have to come at the hands of a Black man? Hadn't we suffered enough? This is the consensus of many Black Christians who voted for Obama. I do not say it is right, and yes we should have seen our worth in Jesus Christ and what He did for us on calvary. That is easy to say or even imagine when you're not Black. I think, for me, it was very difficult to accept that we were still being seen as bad, less intelligent and not even fully human. When we read the articles and heard the cries of those who were saying Obama was not God's will for America, we were for the most part seeing the faces of White evangelicals--Ravi Zacharias, James Dobson, Charles Stanley, Janet Parchal, and a host of White prophets and the likes.
Even as I write this, it is still painful to think of President-elect Obama as someone bad; yet it is far more painful to think of the horrible choice I made in voting for him. My belief was that I am not voting for abortion, as I would never do that. I saw it as more about the right to choose than the choice. While I am absolutely and unquestionably against abortion, I will defend anyone's right to free choice. I am both pro-life and and pro-choice, and I believe God is the same way. He does not agree with all of our choices, but He he has given us the right to make them.
I pray for forgiveness. Now, I must ask my daughter's to forgive me for encouraging them to vote for Obama. I must explain to them that I was moved more by my emotions than my convictions. I must now encourage them to repent, in the hopes that the Lord will have mercy on us.
I am sick at heart for the choice I made, and feel as though I've already taken the mark of the beast.
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11-17-2008, 11:23 AM
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Re: A Black Woman's Regret
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Originally Posted by StMark
I am a Black female Christian. I voted for Barak Obama...now what?
For as long as I can remember, we (Blacks) have been more or less 'an accursed thing.' White Christians early on took Scripture out of context, interpreting that as decendants of Ham we were cursed. Despite the numerous amendments and proposed amendments to the Constitution, the one thing that has not been amended or even taken into consideration for amendment is that Blacks are defined as less than human. That has been interwoven into the fabric of America, and whether anyone other than Blacks are willing to admit it, that mindset still exists among far too many. I personally experienced the era of separate water fountains, restrooms, entrances (if we were permitted to enter at all), schools, hospitals and etc. We fought in a war with Whites, but were not allowed among them.
One experiences no trouble finding on the internet seeing research article after research article, claiming Blacks are less intelligent than their White counterparts. During the Michael Vick trial a certain Republican Congressman declared that the acts against the dogs that were sanctioned/committed by Michael Vick were dispicable and unconscionable. That same Congressman was at one time a charter member of the KKK, and strangely enough had no problem with the gross and unconscionable acts committed against Blacks--acts that far surpassed those committed against dogs. But, again this is the mindset woven into the fabric of America. We've been enslaved, sold like property, had our families ripped apart and anything else one can imagine. Today, we continue to be racially profiled, stereotyped, suffer blatant disparaties when compared to our White counterparts, and are still grossly discriminated against. I, like many Black Christians, took those things into consideration.
For me, it was painful knowing that despite all we'd endured as a people, the only chance we'd ever had at seeing ourselves as 'just as good' as anyone else was still something bad. Why? Because Barak Obama is a Black man. Why does the prophecied/spoken destruction and devastation have to come at the hands of a Black man? Hadn't we suffered enough? This is the consensus of many Black Christians who voted for Obama. I do not say it is right, and yes we should have seen our worth in Jesus Christ and what He did for us on calvary. That is easy to say or even imagine when you're not Black. I think, for me, it was very difficult to accept that we were still being seen as bad, less intelligent and not even fully human. When we read the articles and heard the cries of those who were saying Obama was not God's will for America, we were for the most part seeing the faces of White evangelicals--Ravi Zacharias, James Dobson, Charles Stanley, Janet Parchal, and a host of White prophets and the likes.
Even as I write this, it is still painful to think of President-elect Obama as someone bad; yet it is far more painful to think of the horrible choice I made in voting for him. My belief was that I am not voting for abortion, as I would never do that. I saw it as more about the right to choose than the choice. While I am absolutely and unquestionably against abortion, I will defend anyone's right to free choice. I am both pro-life and and pro-choice, and I believe God is the same way. He does not agree with all of our choices, but He he has given us the right to make them.
I pray for forgiveness. Now, I must ask my daughter's to forgive me for encouraging them to vote for Obama. I must explain to them that I was moved more by my emotions than my convictions. I must now encourage them to repent, in the hopes that the Lord will have mercy on us.
I am sick at heart for the choice I made, and feel as though I've already taken the mark of the beast.
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Interesting point of view, Ravi Zacharias is not a white guy. He's Indian.
Truth is truth, to bad most in the black community can't see that, they still view much of their interactions with mainstream America through the prism of Racism. I imagine if I were in their shoes, I would to.
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11-17-2008, 01:25 PM
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Re: A Black Woman's Regret
That article sounds like it was written by an emotionally unstable woman. No merit whatsoever. Is she a Big Bone Sista?
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11-17-2008, 01:37 PM
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Re: A Black Woman's Regret
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I am sick at heart for the choice I made, and feel as though I've already taken the mark of the beast.
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Good grief.
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11-17-2008, 05:26 PM
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Re: A Black Woman's Regret
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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind
That article sounds like it was written by an emotionally unstable woman. No merit whatsoever. Is she a Big Bone Sista?
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Agree! Just another headcase christain!
Please give link???? Otherwise Mark, I'd think you wrote this!
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11-17-2008, 05:45 PM
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Re: A Black Woman's Regret
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Originally Posted by HappyTown
Agree! Just another headcase christain!
Please give link???? Otherwise Mark, I'd think you wrote this!
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BWAHAHAHAH!!!!
Ok seriously, I can understand where his woman is coming from. However, she would not be feeling this way (I think) if there weren't SO MANY OTHER CHRISTIANS feeding the idea that by electing this man America is now on the way to hell in a hand basket.
NEWS FLASH!!
America is already on the way to hell in a hand basket!
The WORLD will be judged by fire!!
Those of us with saving faith in Christ will be saved from the judgment to come-- regardless of who we voted for.
This letter rationalizes my point: it is bad to add salvational value to a manmade institution. American Politics is that manmade institution to which some folks in the Republican Party has tried to "legislate" American Christians into, similar to the SENSELESS romanticism that the majority of Black Americans display towards the Democrat Party.
There are MANIPULATORS on both sides of the aisle in a House that is utterly corrupt to the core!
There IS a difference between true Christianity and moralism.
This lady needs to realize this.
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11-17-2008, 05:48 PM
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Re: A Black Woman's Regret
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Originally Posted by 1399
BWAHAHAHAH!!!!
Ok seriously, I can understand where his woman is coming from. However, she would not be feeling this way (I think) if there weren't SO MANY OTHER CHRISTIANS feeding the idea that by electing this man America is now on the way to hell in a hand basket.
NEWS FLASH!!
America is already on the way to hell in a hand basket!
The WORLD will be judged by fire!!
Those of us with saving faith in Christ will be saved from the judgment to come-- regardless of who we voted for.
This letter rationalizes my point: it is bad to add salvational value to a manmade institution. American Politics is that manmade institution to which some folks in the Republican Party has tried to "legislate" American Christians into, similar to the SENSELESS romanticism that the majority of Black Americans display towards the Democrat Party.
There are MANIPULATORS on both sides of the aisle in a House that is utterly corrupt to the core!
There IS a difference between true Christianity and moralism.
This lady needs to realize this.
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Agree
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11-17-2008, 07:16 PM
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Re: A Black Woman's Regret
i dunno, this doesn't sound real to me...sounds contrived...
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11-17-2008, 07:21 PM
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Re: A Black Woman's Regret
Mark, where did you get this?
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11-17-2008, 08:10 PM
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Re: A Black Woman's Regret
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i dunno, this doesn't sound real to me...sounds contrived...
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I agree.
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