I am amazed that some seem to believe that "old time shouting" is out of order.
Do you believe in what the old timers called "shouting". I am talking about where the power of God falls in a service and folks start cutting a jig, or screaming? I am not talking about the Charismatic 2-step we see nowadays. But where one gets "lost" in the holy ghost. It used to be called "getting a blessing".
I am amazed that some seem to believe that "old time shouting" is out of order.
Do you believe in what the old timers called "shouting". I am talking about where the power of God falls in a service and folks start cutting a jig, or screaming? I am not talking about the Charismatic 2-step we see nowadays. But where one gets "lost" in the holy ghost. It used to be called "getting a blessing".
I believe in it cause I see it happen. I think that there are times for it. if someone startes screaming loudly in the middle of the service when that is not the order of the service at that time people might think they got pinched on the hind end. That would be out of order
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I don't have a problem with shouting but I do have a problem with what some people call shouting.
If you are talking about the "loose all control of your senses and have a seizure while shrieking", "shouting", I don't like it, and I don't think that God takes them over and makes them act like that.
What we call "shouting" is supposed to be about praise and worship. Do you think the loose all control stuff is about praise? What you are calling 2 step is more in line with what you see in the Bible, and I am all for it.
That is not to say that I think that the people who do the old time seizure/screaming fit stuff are bad or have a bad motivation. I think they are just following what they have seen and interpret to be praise.
Where this all got started, and why is what I would like to know?
I am amazed that some seem to believe that "old time shouting" is out of order.
Do you believe in what the old timers called "shouting". I am talking about where the power of God falls in a service and folks start cutting a jig, or screaming? I am not talking about the Charismatic 2-step we see nowadays. But where one gets "lost" in the holy ghost. It used to be called "getting a blessing".
By all means yes! There's just something about it when God starts moving and His presence is everywhere.... When you know He is there and you can feel those chains that had you bound just fall from your feet and hands...and you get so excited about the goodness of the Lord.... ...and then you wanna lift yo hands and praise... you wanna dance and shout with a voice of triumph!
yes, I believe it! ...and now I am sooo ready to have some church!
Now, when people flop around like fish and trample others and step on children....that's out of order....I don't believe you lose total control of your senses to where you cannot control yourself at all...
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This may explain where I am coming from a little better.
I was raised in a church where the power of God fell often, and folks shouted, danced, ran, and screamed. it was normal for folks to come to church expecting to receive a "blessing" from God. I watched the holy ghost come upon my mom as she sang and played the organ, and she would begin to sing in tongues. I watched as the holy ghost would come upon my dad, and often he would cut loose into what some would call "the jerks", but what most of you now call out of order. I saw others that I could name, shouting, dancing in the spirit, screaming, and hollering. But I also heard the Word preached. I saw conviction hit folks that caused them to run to an alter. I saw folks pray through to the holy ghost. I saw cancers fall of into peoples hands. I saw folks healed, delivered, and set free.
This would be another example:
I have witnessed with my own eye's a man shout backwards, fall over a row of folding chairs, smack dab onto a sleeping baby, and rolled back off of the baby, never missing a beat. The baby was fine, and never even woke up.
I could also add this:
Often, when the holy ghost came upon my mother, she would scream out, and turn slowly in circles with raise hands. At times, she would shout her hair down, and we kids spent time after service collecting the bobbypins for her and some of the other ladies in the church
When I was young, my brother and I used to make fun of a "Bro Daniels", because every time he shouted, his shoes would go flying. It never failed!! My brother and I (the devils we PK's were) had it down, and would often see who could kick our shoes the farthest when we imitated him.
What you are calling 2 step is more in line with what you see in the Bible, and I am all for it.
I seem to remember David dancing and praising God to the point his wife was ashamed of him. I doubt that was a little 2 step dance.
I'm not a real demonstrative person myself, but I've cut a rug a time or 2. I've probably done everything that you think is out of order and I know I have sure felt better afterwards.
When I was young, my brother and I used to make fun of a "Bro Daniels", because every time he shouted, his shoes would go flying. It never failed!! My brother and I (the devils we PK's were) had it down, and would often see who could kick our shoes the farthest when we imitated him.
It's funny watching children imitate the "jigs" people do in church.