To Those Who Declare "A Vote for McCain is a Vote

[deacon blues]

"...for a Democrat"

McCain is in agreement with Bush on the economy, healthcare, the War in Iraq, abortion, judicial appointments, gay rights and nuclear proliferation. He agreed at first with Bush on immigration but has since admitted he has learned a lesson after almost having to drop completely out of the race for the GOP nomination: conservatives want a secure border before anything. On terrorist prisoners and torture he has differed with Bush.

The Economy

McCain supports making permanent the Bush tax cuts — the $1.35 trillion tax reduction of 2001 and the $320 billion tax cut of 2003 — and he has proposed four major new tax cuts of his own:

1.) A reduction in the corporate tax rate to 25 percent from 35 percent, immediate tax breaks for corporate investment.

2.) A repeal of the alternative minimum tax and doubling the value of exemptions for dependents to $7,000 from $3,500.

3.) A repeal of the alternative minimum tax.

4.) Doubling the value of exemptions for dependents to $7,000 from $3,500.

McCain’s plan would help stimulate job creation by reducing taxes on small businesses, especially those that pay taxes at the personal income tax rate, and would be part of a fiscal plan that would also emphasize reining in the growth of government spending far more than Mr. Bush did.

Health Care

McCain has a market-oriented model similar to the one that Mr. Bush proposed to little effect in 2007. Like Bush, McCain would shift the emphasis from insurance provided by employers to insurance bought by individuals, and would offer a tax benefit for families to do so.

War in Iraq

McCain has been one of the president’s biggest defenders of its stated rationale: saving the world from Saddam Hussein. He was also an early advocate of increasing troop levels at a time when Bush was resistant, and was withering, from 2004 on, about Donald H. Rumsfeld, then defense secretary, and what McCain called Mr. Rumsfeld’s “whack a mole” strategy of moving American troops from one violence-plagued part of Iraq to another.

Like Bush, McCain has steadfastly refused to set dates for withdrawals of troops and envisions a long-term American presence in the country. Last month McCain said he expected that most American troops would be home from Iraq by 2013.

Abortion

McCain has long been opposed, and is in fact more explicit than the president in his opposition to Roe v. Wade, the 1973 Supreme Court decision that established a constitutional right to abortion. Although Bush has spoken about changing American “hearts and minds” to build a “culture of life,” McCain has said directly, in South Carolina in 2007, that Roe v. Wade “should be overturned.”

Judicial Appointments

McCain has strongly embraced the judicial philosophy of Mr. Bush and vowed to appoint conservative judges in the mold of Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. and Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr.

Gay Rights

McCain voted against a proposed constitutional amendment backed by Bush banning same-sex marriage, saying that it should be up to the states. In 2006, he made it clear how he thought his home state, Arizona, should decide: McCain appeared in a television commercial in support of a state amendment, which ultimately failed, to ban same-sex marriages.

Nuclear Weapon Prolifieration

On Iran and North Korea, the two nations whose nuclear programs will present the next president with a tough set of options, McCain has allied himself with the Bush administration. He would refuse to engage in unconditional diplomacy with Iran and would continue to maintain contact with North Korea, primarily through multilateral talks. He has insisted, however, that the United States be able to verify effectively any agreement in which North Korea promises to abandon its nuclear weapons.

Immigration

McCain started out with Mr. Bush — at odds with the Republican mainstream — by favoring a path to citizenship for millions of illegal immigrants, then backed off and emphasized the border-security-first approach favored by a majority of his party.

Terrorists and Torture

McCain has supported imposing tighter rules than favored by the administration on the use of harsh interrogation techniques, but has consistently been with the president on limiting the legal rights of Guantánamo detainees. His view of executive power is close to that of Mr. Bush, believing it was constitutional for the president to authorize wiretaps without warrants to monitor Americans’ international phone calls and e-mail.

How can anyone say a "vote for McCain is a vote for a Democrat?!?!?!?

Voting for a third party candidate is a vote for Obama!!!!!!!

And NO ONE, NO ONE, who considers themselves a God-fearing child of God in the truest sense of the word, would EVER, EVER vote for Obama!

[Cindy]

Well, you convinced me!

[Brother Price]

A vote for McCain is a vote for illegal immigration, as well as Obama.

[chosenbyone]

This was the first thread/post that you wrote that I had little interest in finishing. I have missed you posting here, because I found your posts very inspiring and many of them ministered to me when I needed it most.

Even though I didn't care much about the subject of this thread, it was good seeing you here on AFF.

God bless.

[clgustaveson]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

"...for a Democrat"

McCain is in agreement with Bush on the economy, healthcare, the War in Iraq, abortion, judicial appointments, gay rights and nuclear proliferation. He agreed at first with Bush on immigration but has since admitted he has learned a lesson after almost having to drop completely out of the race for the GOP nomination: conservatives want a secure border before anything. On terrorist prisoners and torture he has differed with Bush.

The Economy

McCain supports making permanent the Bush tax cuts — the $1.35 trillion tax reduction of 2001 and the $320 billion tax cut of 2003 — and he has proposed four major new tax cuts of his own:

1.) A reduction in the corporate tax rate to 25 percent from 35 percent, immediate tax breaks for corporate investment.

2.) A repeal of the alternative minimum tax and doubling the value of exemptions for dependents to $7,000 from $3,500.

3.) A repeal of the alternative minimum tax.

4.) Doubling the value of exemptions for dependents to $7,000 from $3,500.

McCain’s plan would help stimulate job creation by reducing taxes on small businesses, especially those that pay taxes at the personal income tax rate, and would be part of a fiscal plan that would also emphasize reining in the growth of government spending far more than Mr. Bush did.

Health Care

McCain has a market-oriented model similar to the one that Mr. Bush proposed to little effect in 2007. Like Bush, McCain would shift the emphasis from insurance provided by employers to insurance bought by individuals, and would offer a tax benefit for families to do so.

War in Iraq

McCain has been one of the president’s biggest defenders of its stated rationale: saving the world from Saddam Hussein. He was also an early advocate of increasing troop levels at a time when Bush was resistant, and was withering, from 2004 on, about Donald H. Rumsfeld, then defense secretary, and what McCain called Mr. Rumsfeld’s “whack a mole” strategy of moving American troops from one violence-plagued part of Iraq to another.

Like Bush, McCain has steadfastly refused to set dates for withdrawals of troops and envisions a long-term American presence in the country. Last month McCain said he expected that most American troops would be home from Iraq by 2013.

Abortion

McCain has long been opposed, and is in fact more explicit than the president in his opposition to Roe v. Wade, the 1973 Supreme Court decision that established a constitutional right to abortion. Although Bush has spoken about changing American “hearts and minds” to build a “culture of life,” McCain has said directly, in South Carolina in 2007, that Roe v. Wade “should be overturned.”

Judicial Appointments

McCain has strongly embraced the judicial philosophy of Mr. Bush and vowed to appoint conservative judges in the mold of Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. and Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr.

Gay Rights

McCain voted against a proposed constitutional amendment backed by Bush banning same-sex marriage, saying that it should be up to the states. In 2006, he made it clear how he thought his home state, Arizona, should decide: McCain appeared in a television commercial in support of a state amendment, which ultimately failed, to ban same-sex marriages.

Nuclear Weapon Prolifieration

On Iran and North Korea, the two nations whose nuclear programs will present the next president with a tough set of options, McCain has allied himself with the Bush administration. He would refuse to engage in unconditional diplomacy with Iran and would continue to maintain contact with North Korea, primarily through multilateral talks. He has insisted, however, that the United States be able to verify effectively any agreement in which North Korea promises to abandon its nuclear weapons.

Immigration

McCain started out with Mr. Bush — at odds with the Republican mainstream — by favoring a path to citizenship for millions of illegal immigrants, then backed off and emphasized the border-security-first approach favored by a majority of his party.

Terrorists and Torture

McCain has supported imposing tighter rules than favored by the administration on the use of harsh interrogation techniques, but has consistently been with the president on limiting the legal rights of Guantánamo detainees. His view of executive power is close to that of Mr. Bush, believing it was constitutional for the president to authorize wiretaps without warrants to monitor Americans’ international phone calls and e-mail.

How can anyone say a "vote for McCain is a vote for a Democrat?!?!?!?

Voting for a third party candidate is a vote for Obama!!!!!!!

And NO ONE, NO ONE, who considers themselves a God-fearing child of God in the truest sense of the word, would EVER, EVER vote for Obama!

McCain is the real Obama!

[Esther]

Originally Posted by clgustaveson

McCain is the real Obama!

[clgustaveson]

Originally Posted by Esther

Don't blame me!

Lol it's true... and what I mean is-------------

Obama says he reaches across the isle... McCain has the best record of that.
Obama says he can pull crossover voters? Hillary did a better job at that, sadly for her it was because of the ditto heads, McCain did well with that.
Obama says he wont waste spending... do I need to go into details?

McCain has the best pork barrel record EVER!

He wasn't my first choice but consider my occupation and the above statements, I will be making a quick punch this election.

[Esther]

Originally Posted by clgustaveson

Don't blame me!

Lol it's true... and what I mean is-------------

Obama says he reaches across the isle... McCain has the best record of that.
Obama says he can pull crossover voters? Hillary did a better job at that, sadly for her it was because of the ditto heads, McCain did well with that.
Obama says he wont waste spending... do I need to go into details?

McCain has the best pork barrel record EVER!

He wasn't my first choice but consider my occupation and the above statements, I will be making a quick punch this election.

Thanks for the clarification!

[CC1]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

"...for a Democrat"

McCain is in agreement with Bush on the economy, healthcare, the War in Iraq, abortion, judicial appointments, gay rights and nuclear proliferation. He agreed at first with Bush on immigration but has since admitted he has learned a lesson after almost having to drop completely out of the race for the GOP nomination: conservatives want a secure border before anything. On terrorist prisoners and torture he has differed with Bush.

The Economy

McCain supports making permanent the Bush tax cuts — the $1.35 trillion tax reduction of 2001 and the $320 billion tax cut of 2003 — and he has proposed four major new tax cuts of his own:

1.) A reduction in the corporate tax rate to 25 percent from 35 percent, immediate tax breaks for corporate investment.

2.) A repeal of the alternative minimum tax and doubling the value of exemptions for dependents to $7,000 from $3,500.

3.) A repeal of the alternative minimum tax.

4.) Doubling the value of exemptions for dependents to $7,000 from $3,500.

McCain’s plan would help stimulate job creation by reducing taxes on small businesses, especially those that pay taxes at the personal income tax rate, and would be part of a fiscal plan that would also emphasize reining in the growth of government spending far more than Mr. Bush did.

Health Care

McCain has a market-oriented model similar to the one that Mr. Bush proposed to little effect in 2007. Like Bush, McCain would shift the emphasis from insurance provided by employers to insurance bought by individuals, and would offer a tax benefit for families to do so.

War in Iraq

McCain has been one of the president’s biggest defenders of its stated rationale: saving the world from Saddam Hussein. He was also an early advocate of increasing troop levels at a time when Bush was resistant, and was withering, from 2004 on, about Donald H. Rumsfeld, then defense secretary, and what McCain called Mr. Rumsfeld’s “whack a mole” strategy of moving American troops from one violence-plagued part of Iraq to another.

Like Bush, McCain has steadfastly refused to set dates for withdrawals of troops and envisions a long-term American presence in the country. Last month McCain said he expected that most American troops would be home from Iraq by 2013.

Abortion

McCain has long been opposed, and is in fact more explicit than the president in his opposition to Roe v. Wade, the 1973 Supreme Court decision that established a constitutional right to abortion. Although Bush has spoken about changing American “hearts and minds” to build a “culture of life,” McCain has said directly, in South Carolina in 2007, that Roe v. Wade “should be overturned.”

Judicial Appointments

McCain has strongly embraced the judicial philosophy of Mr. Bush and vowed to appoint conservative judges in the mold of Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. and Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr.

Gay Rights

McCain voted against a proposed constitutional amendment backed by Bush banning same-sex marriage, saying that it should be up to the states. In 2006, he made it clear how he thought his home state, Arizona, should decide: McCain appeared in a television commercial in support of a state amendment, which ultimately failed, to ban same-sex marriages.

Nuclear Weapon Prolifieration

On Iran and North Korea, the two nations whose nuclear programs will present the next president with a tough set of options, McCain has allied himself with the Bush administration. He would refuse to engage in unconditional diplomacy with Iran and would continue to maintain contact with North Korea, primarily through multilateral talks. He has insisted, however, that the United States be able to verify effectively any agreement in which North Korea promises to abandon its nuclear weapons.

Immigration

McCain started out with Mr. Bush — at odds with the Republican mainstream — by favoring a path to citizenship for millions of illegal immigrants, then backed off and emphasized the border-security-first approach favored by a majority of his party.

Terrorists and Torture

McCain has supported imposing tighter rules than favored by the administration on the use of harsh interrogation techniques, but has consistently been with the president on limiting the legal rights of Guantánamo detainees. His view of executive power is close to that of Mr. Bush, believing it was constitutional for the president to authorize wiretaps without warrants to monitor Americans’ international phone calls and e-mail.

How can anyone say a "vote for McCain is a vote for a Democrat?!?!?!?

Voting for a third party candidate is a vote for Obama!!!!!!!

And NO ONE, NO ONE, who considers themselves a God-fearing child of God in the truest sense of the word, would EVER, EVER vote for Obama!

DeaconBlue,

I usually have very little patience with the chorus of people who each Presidential election cycle whine about how they don't have a real choice and that they are voting for the "lesser of evils"

However this year I find myself in that position. Nothihng you can say will make me like McCain HOWEVER your points are correct in that in many areas McCain is right on the issues or at least is talking that way now that he actually needs the Republican vote.

I will be voting for McCain just not enthusiastically. However the alternative, a clearly socialist liberal Democrat, would be disasterous for our country.

[Aquila]

You mean...McCain is a flip flopper for political gain.

Face it... one of the following is true...

These are two liberals, one is liberal and being honest about it...the other is liberal and pretending to be a conservative.

or...

McCain has truly become Bush III.

Either way, I'm not voting McCain. I'd rather vote for a man who's liberal and honest about it than a man who pretends to be a conservative. McCain is a manufactured phony. McCain caved in from the principles he's held for decades because he wanted the nomination.