YIKES! The Chip Is Here! you gotta see this!

[StMark]

http://www.rfidjournal.com/article/articleview/4055/



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[Hoovie]

[StMark]

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

I'm not surprised one bit by this response.

I talked to a upc minister once who saw nothing wrong with taking the chip. He said it had no relation to the mark of the beast.

many will be deceived!

[SDG]

Originally Posted by StMark

I'm not surprised one bit by this response.

I talked to a upc minister once who saw nothing wrong with taking the chip. He said it had no relation to the mark of the beast.

many will be deceived!

Yeah, Mark.

[OnTheFritz]

Originally Posted by StMark

I'm not surprised one bit by this response.

I talked to a upc minister once who saw nothing wrong with taking the chip. He said it had no relation to the mark of the beast.

many will be deceived!

Unless you are clearly making a decision to denounce God and pledge allegiance to the anti-Christ, I think he's right. Don't think it's going to sneak up on us.

Otherwise, my dogs currently have the Mark of the Beast. Seems far-"fetched" (pun intended).

[Rico]

All I gotta say is

[Sam]

Bro. Baxter has been making reference to the chip and the Federal ID card. I get his online magazine and emails.

[Aquila]

This chip is a threat to freedom. But I'm cautious in calling it the "mark of the beast". The Bible doesn't reference a microchip. Here's the text:

Revelation 13:16-18
16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

Three things are warned against: the mark, the name, and the number of the name.

Let's just focus on the "mark". The word "mark" in the Greek means:

5480 // caragma // charagma // khar'-ag-mah //

from the same as 5482 ; TDNT - 9:416,1308; n n

AV - mark 8, graven 1; 9

1) a stamp, an imprinted mark
1a) of the mark stamped on the forehead or the right hand as the
badge of the followers of the Antichrist
1b) the mark branded upon horses
2) thing carved, sculpture, graven work
2a) of idolatrous images

The "mark" has to do with a branding or etching burned or stamped permanently upon the skin of the right hand or the forehead. This is a microchip inserted under the skin of the arm. Tell me...how does this meet the description of the biblical "mark"?

Also consider this, John told his readers,

Revelation 13:18
18Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

Who would his original readers have understood him as warning them about?

This microchip may not be "the mark" of "the beast" in Scripture. But no doubt it is a danger to liberty and privacy. I see as "a mark" of the world system we are currently dealing with. But "the mark"? I'm not so sure. I think we loose creditability when we sound the alarm over and over and over about things that don't prove to be what we warn that they are. We need to warn people about the very real dangers this poses to our liberties without saying it's the mark. When we have something etched or burned onto the skin of the right hand or forehead that represents the name or contains the number of the name of a maniacal madman....sound the alarm.

[AmazingGrace]

Well I have a big black chopper one for ya Mark...

Dallas is implementing for their special ed students...chips... and they are somewhere on their person or wheelchair I am not sure... Trying to find the story again. I had dvrd a show and caught part of this...

Anyways this chip... they can track them anywhere. They also use it to buy their school lunches... if they get stranded they can use it for transportation on the public transit system and other things they are trying to add to it... right now its main function is as GPS system and lunches....

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Aquila

This chip is a threat to freedom. But I'm cautious in calling it the "mark of the beast". The Bible doesn't reference a microchip. Here's the text:

Revelation 13:16-18
16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

Three things are warned against: the mark, the name, and the number of the name.

Let's just focus on the "mark". The word "mark" in the Greek means:

5480 // caragma // charagma // khar'-ag-mah //

from the same as 5482 ; TDNT - 9:416,1308; n n

AV - mark 8, graven 1; 9

1) a stamp, an imprinted mark
1a) of the mark stamped on the forehead or the right hand as the
badge of the followers of the Antichrist
1b) the mark branded upon horses
2) thing carved, sculpture, graven work
2a) of idolatrous images

The "mark" has to do with a branding or etching burned or stamped permanently upon the skin of the right hand or the forehead. This is a microchip inserted under the skin of the arm. Tell me...how does this meet the description of the biblical "mark"?

Also consider this, John told his readers,

Revelation 13:18
18Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

Who would his original readers have understood him as warning them about?

This microchip may not be "the mark" of "the beast" in Scripture. But no doubt it is a danger to liberty and privacy. I see as "a mark" of the world system we are currently dealing with. But "the mark"? I'm not so sure. I think we loose creditability when we sound the alarm over and over and over about things that don't prove to be what we warn that they are. We need to warn people about the very real dangers this poses to our liberties without saying it's the mark. When we have something etched or burned onto the skin of the right hand or forehead that represents the name or contains the number of the name of a maniacal madman....sound the alarm.

If you lived before the time electricity was discovered, how would you describe a computer chip? What would be your point of reference?