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12-18-2007, 06:34 PM
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French, Tulsa, Light Doctrine
First Tulsa
I am NOT one of those that believe division is always wrong. I very much think God may be right in the middle of doing a wonderful move among Oneness Pentecostals - in spite of many opinions to the contrary.
Talmage French
A brilliant mind, a wonderful testimony and great teacher, French has produced the best documented writing on Oneness Pentecostals world-wide. About ten - twelve years ago I was at the St Louis Symposium where he answered questions regarding his reseach.
Light Doctrine
One of the questions was regarding the position held of many included in his book "Our God Is One", and whether they saw and understood soteriology the same way as the UPC did.
I remember him saying something like...
"It is true that some of these likely hold to what has been referred to as "Light Doctrine" as did some early Oneness Pentecostals and even I do myself, but the particulars were not among the criteria for inclusion in the book. I simply documented those who believe the impartation of Holy Spirit is accompanied with tongues, and who involk the Name of Jesus at baptism."
(the above is not a direct quote but as I remember it! If wrong I will gladly retract!)
Now here is my question.
Since Tamlage French has signed on as the WPF Educational Director, what does this mean concerning reports that the new org wants to crack down on, not just TV tolerance, but also tolerance and acceptance of non Oneness Pentecostal Christians?
I am starting to think BOTH organizations are moving in the right direction... fugetabout TV - we have bigger fish to fry.
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"It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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12-18-2007, 06:35 PM
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Does French believe in Light doctrine???
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12-18-2007, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
Does French believe in Light doctrine???
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Did you read what I wrote?
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"It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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12-18-2007, 06:39 PM
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There were some follow-up questions at the symposium about his reference to the light doctrine but French only briefly answered and said it was really off topic.
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"It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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12-18-2007, 06:39 PM
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If he does ... does the WPF leadership know of this ... and are there other lite 3-steppers in the mix ....
Will this create a schism in the decades to come??? Will there be an affirmation statement???
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12-18-2007, 06:41 PM
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Since the new Tulsa org. will be made up mostly of wall-building purists, it will be interesting to see which beliefs get ex-communicated each year!
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12-18-2007, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Pianoman
Since the new Tulsa org. will be made up mostly of wall-building purists, it will be interesting to see which beliefs get ex-communicated each year!
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Isn't that the truth. And to also see how much off the wall stuff finds a following. Maybe the majic hair stuff can find a following after all.
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12-18-2007, 06:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
If he does ... does the WPF leadership know of this ... and are there other lite 3-steppers in the mix ....
Will this create a schism in the decades to come??? Will there be an affirmation statement???
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According to the site... he IS leadership.
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"It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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12-18-2007, 07:04 PM
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Psalm 121
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
According to the site... he IS leadership.
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By osmosis?
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13 You, my brothers, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the sinful nature; rather, serve one another in love. 14 The entire law is summed up in a single command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” 15 If you keep on biting and devouring each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other. Galatians 5:13-15 (NIV)
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12-18-2007, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Theophil
By osmosis?
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Whatever... I do know the "osmosis" thingy under my sink makes good water.
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"It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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