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Old 03-09-2010, 10:16 AM
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Can anyone not see an abuse of authority here?

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/ho...omplaint_.html

Based on a complaint from someone the State Police refuse to identify, three teams of officers converged last Thursday on the three bars, run by Leigh Maida and her husband, Brendan Hartranft. Checking their inventories against the state's official list of more than 2,800 brands, the cops seized four kegs and 317 bottles, totaling 60.9 gallons of beer, according to police calculations.

In fact, according to Maida, more than half the beer removed by the State Police was properly registered - but the cops couldn't find it on their lists because of "clerical errors" or "blatant ineptitude" between the police and the Liquor Control Board, with whom the officers were conferring by telephone.

La Torre said that the investigation was sparked by "a citizen complaint."

"It doesn't matter where the complaint is coming from," he said. "If there is merit to the complaint, we have to follow through with it. . . . We received a complaint regarding the licensee bringing in unregistered beers and we confirmed with the Pennsylvania Liquor Control Board that certain brands were not registered."
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Old 03-09-2010, 10:21 AM
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http://www.philly.com/philly/news/ho...omplaint_.html

Based on a complaint from someone the State Police refuse to identify, three teams of officers converged last Thursday on the three bars, run by Leigh Maida and her husband, Brendan Hartranft. Checking their inventories against the state's official list of more than 2,800 brands, the cops seized four kegs and 317 bottles, totaling 60.9 gallons of beer, according to police calculations.

In fact, according to Maida, more than half the beer removed by the State Police was properly registered - but the cops couldn't find it on their lists because of "clerical errors" or "blatant ineptitude" between the police and the Liquor Control Board, with whom the officers were conferring by telephone.

La Torre said that the investigation was sparked by "a citizen complaint."

"It doesn't matter where the complaint is coming from," he said. "If there is merit to the complaint, we have to follow through with it. . . . We received a complaint regarding the licensee bringing in unregistered beers and we confirmed with the Pennsylvania Liquor Control Board that certain brands were not registered."
All that on just a complaint? For unregistered beers? What kind of customer complains about a bar having beers not on a particular list? What kind of customer even KNOWS what's on the list of 2,800 permissible brands?
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All that on just a complaint? For unregistered beers? What kind of customer complains about a bar having beers not on a particular list? What kind of customer even KNOWS what's on the list of 2,800 permissible brands?
A customer with a grudge?
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Old 03-09-2010, 10:23 AM
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All that on just a complaint? For unregistered beers? What kind of customer complains about a bar having beers not on a particular list? What kind of customer even KNOWS what's on the list of 2,800 permissible brands?
What is even more telling is the fact that many of the same beers are sold all over town and three bars were singled out all owned by the same owners. Someone is being targeted.
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A customer with a grudge?
Or a member of the local government with a grudge and/or an agenda.
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Old 03-09-2010, 11:08 AM
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Or a member of the local government with a grudge and/or an agenda.
Who would even know that beers have to be registered with the state among the general public? There is certainly an agenda behind this.
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Re: Can anyone not see an abuse of authority here?

Is Ayinger Celebrator Doppelbock on the list?

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Is Ayinger Celebrator Doppelbock on the list?

Don't even know where to find the list.

What was that beer that just came out that was over 40% alcohol by volume? There was a news article about it last month.
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All that on just a complaint? For unregistered beers? What kind of customer complains about a bar having beers not on a particular list? What kind of customer even KNOWS what's on the list of 2,800 permissible brands?
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What is even more telling is the fact that many of the same beers are sold all over town and three bars were singled out all owned by the same owners. Someone is being targeted.
More than likely this complaint was from a competitor, not a customer.
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More than likely this complaint was from a competitor, not a customer.
I would go so far as to say that the competitor has some pull with the local government.
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