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British Israelism
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09-07-2024, 08:32 AM
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Re: British Israelism
Wikipedia has lots of information on the subject
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Israelism
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09-07-2024, 08:35 AM
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Re: British Israelism
Many proponents of British Israelism actively supported the British Mandate and saw it as a fulfillment of their beliefs. They argued that the British Empire, as the supposed descendants of the lost tribes of Israel, had a divine right to govern Palestine and facilitate the restoration of the Jewish people to their ancestral homeland.
British Israelites believed that the British Mandate was a crucial step towards:
1. Restoring Israel: They saw the Mandate as a means to restore the Jewish people to their rightful place in Palestine, in preparation for the ultimate redemption of the entire House of Israel (including the British people).
2. Fulfilling prophecy: They believed that the Mandate fulfilled biblical prophecies regarding the restoration of Israel and the role of the British Empire in that process.
3. Asserting British dominance: British Israelites also saw the Mandate as a way to assert British dominance and influence in the region, which they believed was divinely ordained.
Notable British Israelites, such as Edward Hine and Herbert Armstrong, actively promoted the idea that the British Empire had a sacred duty to support the Jewish people and facilitate their return to Palestine.
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09-07-2024, 08:36 AM
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Re: British Israelism
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Many proponents of British Israelism actively supported the British Mandate and saw it as a fulfillment of their beliefs. They argued that the British Empire, as the supposed descendants of the lost tribes of Israel, had a divine right to govern Palestine and facilitate the restoration of the Jewish people to their ancestral homeland.
British Israelites believed that the British Mandate was a crucial step towards:
1. Restoring Israel: They saw the Mandate as a means to restore the Jewish people to their rightful place in Palestine, in preparation for the ultimate redemption of the entire House of Israel (including the British people).
2. Fulfilling prophecy: They believed that the Mandate fulfilled biblical prophecies regarding the restoration of Israel and the role of the British Empire in that process.
3. Asserting British dominance: British Israelites also saw the Mandate as a way to assert British dominance and influence in the region, which they believed was divinely ordained.
Notable British Israelites, such as Edward Hine and Herbert Armstrong, actively promoted the idea that the British Empire had a sacred duty to support the Jewish people and facilitate their return to Palestine.
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09-07-2024, 08:37 AM
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Re: British Israelism
This is an interesting site
Cottrell-Boyce, Aidan. 2021. "British Israelism." In James Crossley and Alastair Lockhart (eds.) Critical Dictionary of Apocalyptic and Millenarian Movements. 21 October 2021. Retrieved from https://www.cdamm.org/articles/british-israelism
Eventually, Hine’s British-Israel Identity Corporation was marginalised by the success of the Metropolitan Anglo-Israel Association. Hine left England for America in 1884. Over the next two years, he gave numerous lectures on British-Israelism in cities and towns across the North Eastern United States and Canada. British-Israelism already had some roots in North America—due to the evangelizing efforts of a Toronto-based Methodist and Orangeman named Joseph Wild (1834–1908)—but this potential was cultivated by Edward Hine and his American sponsor, Charles Totten. Totten was a general, a veteran of the Apache wars, and a professor of military strategy at Yale. Totten and Hine’s mission in the late 1880s won many disciples who themselves would go on to found British-Israelist movements in the United States (Barkun 1997). One of their most noted converts was Frank Sandford (1862–1948). Sandford was the founder of a millenarian community in Durham, Maine, called The Kingdom. In the late 1880s, he became convinced of the validity of British-Israelist doctrine. He shared these convictions with his followers, among them Joseph Allen (1847–1930) and Charles Fox Parham (1873–1929). Allen and Fox became the most powerful voices in the emergent Pentecostalist movement, on the West Coast of the United States, in the early decades of the twentieth century. They used their platforms to popularise a range of doctrines associated with British-Israelism (Barkun 1997).
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09-07-2024, 09:00 AM
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Re: British Israelism
The British-Israel movement in the United States, led by Edward Hine and Charles Totten, progressed into Christian Zionism through several key developments:
1. _Mergence with Pentecostalism_: The British-Israel movement influenced Pentecostal leaders like Joseph Allen and Charles Fox Parham, who incorporated its teachings into their eschatological framework.
2. _Dispensationalism_: The British-Israel movement's emphasis on biblical prophecy and restorationism aligned with Dispensationalist theology, which emerged in the late 19th century. Dispensationalism emphasized the importance of Israel in God's plan and the need for Jews to return to their homeland.
3. _Christian support for Zionism_: As the British-Israel movement grew, it fostered a sense of Christian responsibility to support Jewish restoration in Palestine. This led to increased advocacy for Zionist causes among American Christians.
4. _Influence of prominent figures_: Individuals like Frank Sandford, Joseph Allen, and Charles Fox Parham played significant roles in popularizing British-Israelist and Zionist ideas within Pentecostal and evangelical circles.
5. _Post-WWII developments_: Following World War II, Christian Zionism gained momentum as American Christians became increasingly supportive of the newly established State of Israel. This support was fueled by:
- _Cold War geopolitics_: Israel was seen as a strategic ally against Soviet influence in the Middle East.
- _Evangelical growth_: Evangelical Christianity experienced significant growth in the post-war period, and Christian Zionism became a core aspect of its eschatological narrative.
- _Six-Day War (1967)_: Israel's victory in the Six-Day War solidified Christian Zionist support, as many saw it as a fulfillment of biblical prophecy.
The convergence of these factors transformed the British-Israel movement into a broader Christian Zionist movement, which emphasizes support for Israel as a means to fulfill biblical prophecy and hasten the Second Coming.
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09-07-2024, 09:08 AM
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Re: British Israelism
Pentecostalism is a mess:
British Israelism
Christian Zionism
Light doctrine
Roman paganism
Is it any wonder some people might try to restore Apostolic doctrine?
That being said, it's likely no one is perfect or right about everything.
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09-07-2024, 11:35 AM
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Re: British Israelism
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Originally Posted by Amanah
Pentecostalism is a mess:
British Israelism
Christian Zionism
Light doctrine
Roman paganism
Is it any wonder some people might try to restore Apostolic doctrine?
That being said, it's likely no one is perfect or right about everything.
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Amen.
Therefore what we really need to do is listen for the Shepard’s voice.
We need to focus on our devoutness to Jesus. So, our prayers and alms come up before Him.
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09-07-2024, 11:37 AM
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Re: British Israelism
John Nelson Darby (1800-1882) came before Edward Hine (1825-1891).
Darby's dispensationalist teachings emerged in the 1830s-1840s, while Hine's British Israelite teachings developed later, in the 1870s-1880s.
Here's a rough timeline:
- 1830s-1840s: Darby develops his dispensationalist teachings
- 1870s: Hine becomes acquainted with Darby's teachings and begins to develop his own British Israelite ideas
- 1878: Hine publishes his first book on British Israelism, "Forty-Seven Identifications of the British Nation with Lost Israel"
- 1880s: Hine's British Israelite movement gains momentum, influenced by Darby's dispensationalist framework
Darby's teachings predated Hine's by several decades, and Hine built upon Darby's dispensationalist foundation to develop his own distinct ideas about British Israelism.
Yes, here are some references that support the connections between John Nelson Darby, Edward Hine, and the development of British Israelism:
1. *Darby's influence on Hine*:
- "Edward Hine and the British Israel Movement" by William H. G. Armytage (1957)
- "The Origins of British Israelism" by Henry F. Railton (1925)
2. *Darby's dispensationalism*:
- "The Life of John Nelson Darby" by W. G. Turner (1903)
- "Darby and the Dispensationalist Movement" by William E. Cox (1963)
3. *Hine's British Israelism*:
- "Forty-Seven Identifications of the British Nation with Lost Israel" by Edward Hine (1878)
- "The British Nation Identified with Lost Israel" by Edward Hine (1880)
4. *Connection between Darby and Hine*:
- "The British Israel Theory" by Howard B. Rand (1944)
- "British Israelism: A Critical Examination" by R. A. Anderson (1968)
5. *General resources*:
- "The Oxford Handbook of Evangelical Theology" edited by Gerald R. McDermott (2010)
- "The Cambridge Companion to Evangelical Theology" edited by Timothy Larsen and Daniel J. Treier (2007)
Please note that some of these sources may be older or harder to access, but they provide valuable insights into the historical connections between Darby, Hine, and the development of British Israelism.
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09-07-2024, 12:36 PM
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Re: British Israelism
Sister, nice put together of the information. British Israelism integrated with Dispensationalism. Gasoline and a match. The world would soon be the wood.
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